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myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 72  Post: 2443  Age:  
Posted on:28th Apr 2010, 4:03pm
 

AppkaDost, A'ala hazrat aur Abul A'ala

"Hhazrat" aur "A'ala hazrat" par meray 'etraaz' k jawaab maiN AppkaDost Bhai "jawaabi etraaz" kartay howay likhtay hain k...

Yea mahamlah kuch yoon bhee hai keh Molana Moddodi r.a kay naam kay sath "abu aala" yehni aala ka baap.. likha jaata hai abb agar kohee kum ilm iss say yea morrad lai keh aala zaat tou sirf Allah ki hai tou kia abu aalah ...allah ka baap...nahoozbillah  .........

shayaad nahi balkay yaqeenan ap arabi zuban o adab say naa.waaqif maloom hotay haiN. wernah apko yeh bhi maloom hotaa k ma'aroof sahabi ... Abu Hureraih RA.... ki kunniyat 'abu hurerah' ka matlab 'billiyouN walay' hai k app nay bahoot see billiyaaN pali howi theeN.... iska matlab khodaa nah khaastah ... billiyouN k baap... nah thaa

karachi university k aik ostaad thay ... Abul khair kashfi ... iska yeh matlab nahi k woh "khair" k bhi baap" thay.... balkay yahaaN bhi arabic mohaawray k motaabiq iska matlab hogaa ... khair-waalay sahab......... issi tarah "Abu A'ala" ka matlab hogaa A'ala (Allah) walay sahab... jaisay hum urdu maiN bhi kahtay hain k falaaN to baRa "Alla wala" hai....... karachi hi k aik baRay taajir seyasi rahnomaa thay ... Abdul Khaliq Allah Walaa ... yehi Allah walaa, arabic maiN "Abu A'ala" kahlaayegaa............ wazah rahay k JI k baani Abu A'ala Maudoodi RA ka yeh naam pahli martabah onhi ka nahi rakha gayaa.... yehi naam qabl azeeN onhi k aabaa o ajdaad maiN say aik buzrug ka bhi tha, jinkay naam par onka naam rakha gayaa thaa...

abu hurairah, abu al khair yaa abu a'ala, yeh sab to kuniyayt aur naam ka maamlah hai....... hazrat aur a'ala hazrat koi naam yaa kuniyat waghairah nahi balkay yeh protocol / adab adaab k ilfaaz hain jo "aham" logoun ko izzat bakhshnay k liyeh onkay naam k sath diyeh jatay haiN... jaisay english main hai his-highness aur her-highness, your-honour etc etc........ issi tarah kissi ko izzat bakhnay k liyeh oskay naam say qabal "hazrat" likha aur bolaa jata hai

jaisay hazrat Ibrahim AS, hazrat moosa As, hazrat Muhammad pbuh....

issi tarah "Ahmed Raza Khan" sb ko double-protocol denay k liyeh onkay naam say qabal "A'ala Hazrat" likha aur bola jata hai.......... mera sawaal apni jagah bar qaraar hai k kia ambeyaa k liyeh single protocol sirf "hazrat" aur "Ahmed Raza Khan" k liyeh double protocol yaani A'ala hazrat ....

mujhay yeh bhi maloom hai k iss "a'la hazrat" ki wajah tasmia yeh hai k onkay maslak k deger tamaam "buzurgouN" ko "hazrat" kahaa jataa hai aur onhaiN onmaiN mumtaaz rakhnay k liyeh "aala hazrat"........... magar chouNkay onkay yeh protocol, ambeyaa AS k protocol say takrataa hai, balkay 'double' hojata hai aur amalan iss say ambeyaa AS ki izzat main kami aati hai lehazaa aisay protocol use karnay walouN ko iss say ehteyaat hi karna chhaiyeh.

AppkaDost Group: Members  Joined: 18th Jul, 2009  Topic: 17  Post: 188  Age: 33 
Posted on:29th Apr 2010, 5:11pm
 

Mazhabi Taousab ki ainak

Abb tak ki app ki discussion ki conclusion yahee hai keh aalah hazrat jaisay protocol daina nahozbillah amnbia a.s say barhana maqsood hai ....mein pochta hoon jin hazrat kay sath sirf aik bar Hazrat likha jata jiss per kissi ko aitraz naheen hota jaisay Hazrat myrizvi ,tou kia iss say morrad yea hai keh mein app ko ambia a.s say zeada naheen balkeh oan kay barabar protocol day dia hai.Oar meri nazar mein app oar amnbia a.s dono barabar hain ...nouzbillah.

Mujjay arbi daan honay ka dawa na pehlay tha na abb hai magar iss thread mein disscussion ka baad mujjay app ki arbi dani bhee kuch maskook laqnay lagi hai...app bhee andhoon mein kanay rajay hi hain.

Mazhabi taousab ki ainak uttar ker daikhain tou app ko aalah Hazrat kehnay mein kohee problem naheen hoga ....

aalah Hazrat per yea mera last reply hai.

appkadost

 

 

myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 72  Post: 2443  Age:  
Posted on:30th Apr 2010, 7:48pm
 

andhouN maiN kanaa Raja:)

apki iss pahabti par mujhay kia etraaz hosaktaa hai..... jab ap khud ko andha kah saktay haiN to mujhay kanaa bhi kah saktay haiN :)..... andhaa ka matlab hai beenayee ki raushni say yaksar mahroom... jabkay kaanaa k pass kuch nah kuch beenaayee maujood hoti hai ... haaaa haaaaa

jaisaa k maiN baarhaa likh chukaa houN k meri roy sa kissi ka muttafiq hona zaroori nahi... aur nah yeh zaroori hai k meri har baat laazman durust bhi ho... lekin mujhay bahar haal apni roy ko pesh karnay ka issi taarh haq haasil hai, jaisaa k apko yaa kissi aur ko....... andaazay bayaan har aik ka alag alag hota hai aur iss baat ka faislah bahar haal viewers behtar kar saktay haiN k kis par yeh phabti kasi jaa.ay... baat karnay ka saleeqah nahi naa.daanouN ko :)



Maryam Group: Members  Joined: 17th May, 2008  Topic: 29  Post: 4680  Age:  
Posted on:30th Apr 2010, 9:26pm
 

oho

yeh Raja bhai kahan se agaye bech main ?:)
paroot Group: Members  Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008  Topic: 84  Post: 1924  Age:  
Posted on:2nd May 2010, 10:52am
 

Baat ko goomana tu koi Ashraf Ali Thanvi ke mohabbat mein geere shaks se poche...

Jab Ala hazrat ko define kya gaya tu mafhoom kuch or tha aur jab Hazrat ko difine kya gaya tu mafhoom kuch or he bana halanke 1 he language k word hai...

ajj se jes ne bhi Hazrat Myrizvi kaha uss ne tu Anbiya ka darja de deyaa hogaa ess leye so avoid direct kahe hazrat lagane ke zaroorat nahi jes ko apne ezzat na karane ho wo bezatee karnwa q kar pasand kar sakte hai.. lol..... :))

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