MUFTI

Batman1

Aray ghussa nahi kertay,ilmi baat karo.

Jahan tak baat hai Imam Mehdi a.s ki ghaibat ki to woh sunni dharam k molvi bhi iss baat ko mantay hain.

Aur chupana kahin se bhi khilaf e shariat nahi hai,Rasool Allah saww ghaar mein chupay rahay,Hazrat Eesa a.s 2000 se ghaibat mein hain...

Yeh to sunnat e Anbiya a.s hai.

Haan ghaar mein chup ker rona abu bakar ki sunnat zaroor hai :P

Ab baat kertay hain k Imam Mehdi a.s jab zahoor fermaein ge to woh nungay hon ge ya libas k sath hon ge.

Mein iss masla per baat nahi kerta k woh riwayat jo hai,uss ki sanad kiya hai ya uss mein koi alfazi ghalti hui kiun k uss se behas lambi ho jaye gi.

Tum mujhay sirf itna batao k kiya iss duniya mein koi aik shaks tum bata saktay ho k jo iss duniya mein aaya to libaas pehan ker aaya ??

umar jab paida hua woh nunga tha ya pant shirt pehni hui thi ya arabi chugha pehana hua tha ??

Kiya tum Hazrat Adam a.s aur Hazrat Hawa a.s k baray mein jantay ho ??

Tum batao k jab woh duniya mein aaye unhon ne kon se kapray pehanay huay thay ya woh bhi nungay thay ??

Tumhain aik mard k nungay honay per etiraz hai jab k tumharay samnay aik aurat jis se insaniat ki nasl chali woh bhi duniya mein nungi hi aaye,uss per kiya kaho ge ??

Chalo mein tumhari iss shart ko manzor kerta hoon lakin tumhain bhi meri aik baat maanani paray gi k tum pehlay yeh sabit karo ge k tum ussi mard ki aulad ho jis ko tum zahiri toar per baap kehtay ho ya kisi aur mard ki aulad ho...theek hai ??

Agar tumhain mutah per baat kernay ka itna hi shoq hai to alag se topic start ker lo beta aur dosri baat baap ko beta nahi kehtay yeh aik buri baat hai aur waisay bhi tumhari maa yeh sunay gi to woh tum per naraz ho gi..aainda khayal rakhna aur beta k bajaye mujhay daddy ya abba jan pukarna.

Mein hamesha se tum se izzat se baat kerta raha hoon,kiun k tum thora sa ilm rakhtay ho uss jahil k bachay wehshi ki terha sirf awara kuttay ki terha bhonktay nahi ho,issi liye mein chahon ga k izzat se baat karo aur izzat kerwao bhi ta k behas achay mahol mein ho...umeed hai tum meri baat ko samajho ge.

mufti

na na na.. itni hoshiari mat dikhao mujyy.... pahly to yeh btao k hazrat Esa AS dunia k konsay ghaar mey chupy huay hen??? tmhy pahar bohot pasand hen na to ab wahan sy bhago nahi.. Rasool Allah saw konsy ghaar mey kitny saal tak chupay rahy??? . or teesri baat k mujh sy baat krty huay hazrat Mahdi A.S ka name bich mey use mat kro.. mey tmhary 12 imam ki baat kr raha hun... or tm chahy usy saath pardon mey bhi chupa lo meean woh nanga hi nikly ga yeh ek haqeeqat hy isy tm chupa nahi sakty...

or in baaton k zimadyaar bhi tm khud ho.. tm apni post parho joi tmny nabi saw k susar umar ibn khatab ra k liay ki thi ... tm jitny uchlo gey men utna hi tmhary mazhab ko nanga krun ga is liay ab ro mat.. tm woh bakri wali baat sabit kr nahi sakay thy is liay apni asliat mey zahir ho gaye.. mey bhi tmhary 12 imam ko ksi janwar sy tashbeeh dy sakta tha lakin meny abhi halka hath rakha hua hy...

or apni yeh baten apni majlis mey hi suna kr unko bahlaya kro.. tm yeh btao k tmhara 12tm imam ghar sy paida ho raha hoga jo nanga aaye ga ??? yani tm maan gaye k 12 imam abhi paida nahi hua or jub nikly ga to woh paida hoga or jo bacha hota hy woh nanga hota hy is laiy tmhy yeh misalen din??? tmhari is baat mey tmhari sary mazhab ka janaza nikaal dia hy ..

or teesri baat yeh btao k bachy or mard mey koi fark hota hy ya nahi..

tm kiun pareshaan ho rahy ho ?? meny tmsy abhi mutay k baray mey kuch kaha k woh halal hy ya haram hy?? nahi na.. to is bahas ko choro na chandaa or yeh btao k tm mutay sy paida huy ho ya proper nikah k bad. is mey meny koi galat baat ki hy kia?? or mery bhaey hm muta nahi krty .. nikah krty hen is liay mujhy to koi zarurat hi nahi hy apna kuch sabit krny ki.. ye muta or nikah to tm log krty ho is liay mera confuse hona to banta hy..

tm sy meny ilmi bahas nahi krni mery betay .. tmhara abhi yeh level nahi hua.. or meny tmhy beta kaha hy tm mery maan baap ko bich my laa rah ho to tmhy beta kehny sy tmhary abu ko tmhari ami pr gusa aay ga janab.. akalmand k liay ishara hi kafi hy k kiun aay ga .. is liay mujh tak hi raho

Batman1

Lagta hai bohat ghussa aaya hua hai :P

Kher meri nasehat shayed tumhain samajh nahi aaye,ab kiya ker saktay hain jab tum na izzat se baat kerna chahtay ho aur na hi sunana chahtay ho.

Tum ne kaha k 12th imam ki baat ker raha hoon na k imam Mehdi a.s ki.

Yeh tumhari aik aur kam-ilmi ka saboot hai.

Kiun k tumharay bohat se ulma ne iss baat ka iqrar kiya hai k Imam Mehdi a.s shaban 255 hijjre ko paida huay aur woh Imam Hassan Askari a.s k betay thay aur ab woh perda e ghaibat mein hain.

Ab tum apni books per hi etibar na karo to iss mein hamara kiya qasoor.

Ab atay hain nungay honay per...mein ne tum se pocha k tum koi aik misaal dikha do k jo bhi duniya mein aaya woh kapray pehan ker aaya,agar to kapray pehan ker aaya to tum yeh issue bana saktay ho lakin agar sab hi nungay aaye to phir iss mein itna uchalnay ki kiya baat hai ??

Kiya Anbiya a.s kapray pehan ker aaye ya nungay hi aaye ??

Hazrat Adam a.s aur Hazrat Hawa a.s kapray pehan ker aaye ya nungay aaye ??

Tumhara umar,bakr,usman kon se color k kapray pehan ker maa k pait se nikalay...yeh batao ??

Agar woh bhi nungay aaye to pehlay to unn per etiraz karo phir dosron per karo :P

Aur tum jo kehtay raho mujhay farq nahi perta balkeh mujhay to iss terha lutf aa raha hai k khul ker baat kernay ka moqa mil raha hai :P

Ab atay hain tumharay dharam per...kiya tumharay dharam mein yeh nahi likha k Hazrat Moosa a.s nungay ho ker pathar k peechay bhagtay rahay aur loagon ko apni mardangi dikhatay rahay ??

Kiya tumharay dharam mein yeh nahi likha k Rasool Allah saww khandaq k waqt sab k samnay nungay huay ??

Kiya tumharay dharam mein nahi likha k ayesha se 2 mard ghusal e janabat seekhnay k liye gaye aur uss ne unhain ghusal ker k dikhaya :P

Tumharay dharam mein nunga hona kon se itni bari baat hai jo tum itna uchal rahay ho beta ??

Ab jahan tak baat hai umar ki to uss mein kiya aisi khoobi hai jo mein uss ki tareef karon ??

Agar susar hona khoobi hai to phir Rasool Allah saww k bohat se susar kafir thay,unn ko bhi umar ki terha sar per kiun nahi bithatay ??

Aisay susar ka kiya achar dalay bunda jo museebat k waqt choar ker bhaag jaye ??

Jis jahil ko tayamum ka nahi pata tha uss ka deen se taluq hi kiya ??

Aur tum ne kaha k Imam Mehdi a.s paida nahi hon ge balkeh zahoor karein ge..

Mujhay pata tha k tum yeh baat zaroor karo ge lakin agar tum meri post ko ghoar se perhtay to aisa etiraz kabhi na kertay kiun k Hazrat Adam a.s aur Hazrat Hawa a.s paida nahi huay thay balkeh unhon ne bhi zameen per zahoor kiya tha aur nungay bhi thay :P

Ab yeh to Anbiya a.s ki sunnat hai beta.

Aur mein ne bhi muttah per baat nahi ki aur na hi tum se iss k mutaliq pocha mein ne to sirf itna kaha k tum pehlay yeh sabit karo k tum ussi ki aulad ho jisay tumhari maa ne tumhara baap bataya hai ya tum bhi Ibn Kaseer ho :P

Itni se baat tumhain samajh nahi aati aur tum samajh rahay ho k mein ne tum se mutah k baray mein pocha :P

Batman1

jahan tak main ne perha hai aur suna k aakhiri imaam zahir ki koi aulad nhn thi is bat ko chupanay k liyay yeh mashhoor kiya gaya k imaam k beta peda huwa hai aur hukam aya hai Allah ki teraf se (kiun k in ko to aaj bhi allah se direct hukam aatay hain) k jab tak bacha 14 saal ka na ho jai kisi k samnay na laya jai

jab 14 saal ho gai to log ikathay huway k ab imaam ko samnay laao lekin imaam hota to samnay aata

is liyay gher ki chat phaar ker drama kiya gay ak imaam GHAYEB ho gai hain aur qayamat k qareeb aain gay

aisa imaam kis kaam ka jis ki zaruret aaj hai aur woh aai qayamat k pass

is k ilawa sunni log bhi jo mantay hain woh inhi ki GHERI hui hadeeson k tehat mantay hain

Abu Bakar ki bohat takleef hai in ko Abu bakar RA kisi ghar main nhn gai ilawa GHAR E THOR k jis main un k sath Nabi SAW thay

main ne pehlay hi kaha tha k is behas ka koi fayeda nhn in k liyay hai na

IN K DILON PER MOHRAIN LAGA DI GAI HAIn

yeh mujhay tana deta hai k mujhay deen ka ilam nhn kiun k mujhay ilam nhn tah k YAZEED RA sahabi thay ya nhn

is liyay k humara deen QURAN aur HADEES per hai aur us ka humain ilam hai history in k deen ki buniyad hai is liyay inhain history ka ilam hai humaray koi zaruri nhn k hum YAZEED RA ki date of birth talash kerain in logon k liyay zaruri hai

aaj tak yeh jawab to mila nhn in ko k konsa ais arasta tha ya sawari thi jis k sath IMAAM HUSAIN RA 08 Zilhajja ko Makkah se niklay aur 1 Moharam ko bachon aur khawateen k sath KOOFA ka lamba safer ker k pohanch gai

baqi bakwaas in k pas hai

her woh shakhas ya firqa jis ne Nabi k Sahaba se badgumani ki us ka yehi hashar huwa k ser e aam khud ko lahu lahan kertay hain aur sochtay hain k sawab ka kam kiya

1970'S main inhon ne Dubai main nikala jaloos aur zanjeer zani ki 25-30 log thay police ne sab ki KHUDKUSHI ki koshish k tehat giriftar ker liya

Wehshi

Tumhari her post se jahalat tapakti hai.

Jis terha tu ne yazeed ko sahabi books mein perha waisi hi jahilana books mein tu ne perh liya k Imam Hassan Askari a.s ki koi aulad nahi thi.

Jab k sunni books iss baat se bhari pari hain k Imam Mehdi a.s shahban 255 hijjre mein Imam Hassan Askari a.s k ghar mein paida huay aur 5 saal ki age mein ghaibat mein chalay gaye.

Agar tum kabhi books perho to tumhain ilm hasil ho.

Ab jahan tak baat hai unn ki ghaibat ki to unn se pehlay Hazrat Eesa a.s ghaibat mein gaye.

kam se kam 600 saal tak dosra Nabi na aaya aur ab 2000+ saal ho gaye hain unn ko,phir unn ki nabooat ka kiya faida k 600 saal bina nabi k qoam chalti rahi aur unn ko khuda ka beta maanti rahi ??

Tum jitnay jahil ho,tumharay dimagh mein aisi ilmi baatein nahi aaein gi tum jao yazeed ko sahabi mano aur umar ki biddat ko sunnat mano :P

Ab agar Imam hussain a.s ne 8 zilhajj se 2 muharram tak safar kiya to tum mujhay batao k tum ne kitnay din mein safar kiya ??

Tum jaisay jahil computer per beth ker kehtay rehtay hain k YEH NA-MUMKIN HAI.

Jahil insan kiya tum ne aisa kernay ki koshish ki ??

Tujh jahil ko to yeh bhi nahi pata ho ga k Karbala hai kis teraf aur bethay ho etiraz kernay.

Chalo tum batao Imam Hussain a.s kab makkah se gaye aur kab karbala pohnchay ??

Kisi muatabar tarikh book se bata do.

Tum jaisay awara kuton ko sirf bhonkna aata hai.

Aur tum kin ko sahabi mantay ho ??

Woh jo Rasool Allah saww ka janaza choar ker choaron ki terha saqeefa mein iqtedar bantatay rhay ??

Woh jinhon ne Rasool Allah saww ka haq ghasab ker liya ??

Aur agar dubai mein pabandi lag gaye zanjeer-zani per to iss mein kiya ajeeb baat hai ??

Kiya wahan islami hakumat hai ??

Wahan to sharab bhi sar e aam bikti hai,rundi-bazi bhi hoti hai.

Subah ki adhan sirf iss liye bund kerwa di jati hai ta k loagon ki neend kharab na ho.

aisi gundi hakumat se kisi bhi ghalat iqdaam ki tawaqoh ki ja sakti hai :P

KUFTY

jin suni kitabon ka tu hawala de raha hai woh bhi teray jesay DO MUNHON ne likhi hain

khabees Dubai main koi pabandi nhn subah ki AZAN per asal bat yeh hai k tum aik KUNWAIN k MENDAK ho jisay kuch ilam hi nhn kisi bat ka

lagta hai tu kabhi shiya kitabon se baher nikla hi nhn

wesay bhi shiyat main ti mufty hotay hi nhn tum log to ALAMA hotay ho ya ZAKIR tu kesay mufty ban gay alagta hai kisi suni ne bana diya tujhay mufty

:(:(:(:

Wehshi

Teri jahalat teri post se tapak rahi hai,tujhay kis ne kaha k shia aqeeda mein mufti nahi hotay ??

Mufti Jaffer Hussain ka naam tu ne zaroor suna ho ga jinhon ne zia ul haq lanati k dour mein islamabad ka gherao kiya tha,woh bhi mufti thay.

Hum tum loagon ki terha apnay sar per rakh ker nahi phirtay k dekho mein mufti hon jis jis ne fatwa lena ho aao mujh se le lo :P

kiun k fatwa denay k liye ilm ki zaroorat hoti hai na k naam k sath mufti likhwanay ki.

Ab baaki baat hai dubai ki to meray betay tum saudia mein computer k samnay beth ker samajhtay ho k poori duniya ka ilm tumharay paas hai tabhi to yazeed jaisay lanati ko sahabi mantay rahay 47 saal tak :P

Aur jahan tak baat hai books perhnay ki to teri umar 47 saal hai aur iss umar per laanat hai jis mein tu kuch bhi seekh na saka...

Tu meray sath behas ker le kisi bhi topic per,phir dekhtay hain k kis ne ziada sunni dharam ki books ko perha hai :P

Kabhi yeh soch ker ghalti mat ker bethna k mufti ne sunni books nahi perhein,tumharay baray baray pandit bhagay hain yeh ghalti ker k :P

KUFTY

han tu ser per rakh ker nhn phirta tabhi to nick name hi MUFTY rakh liyta wesay to Allah ne tum logon ko yeh saadat naseeb nhn ki khud hi ban jatay ho sab kuch

tu kuch bhi ker le tu rahay ga KAFIR hi kiun jo bhi main tujh se poochta hun us ka to jawab hota nhn teray pass bas to tareekhi waqeaat suna ker hi apna ilam jharta hai

pehlay KUFTY ka matlab dhoondh takay tujhay teri auqat ka pata chalay aur yeh teri hi kitab HAQ UL YAQEEN ka lafaz hai ja apnay BAPPON se pooch shayed bata den tujhay

Mufti

tm sirf kam ilm or kam aql hi nahi balky nihayat hi batamez or jahil insaan ho..

meny tmhy beta kaha to tm mery maan baap tak pohonc gaye thy.. kiun k tmahri dimagh mey sirf woh hi beta keh sakta hy jo tmhy paida kry

meny tmsy sirf itna pucha tha k tm mutah sy paida huy ya shasi sy.. us pr tm meri maan pr tohamat lga rahy ho k mey apny baap ki aulaad hun ya ksi or ki.. tmhy pta hy ksi paak daman aurat pr tohmat lagany ki kia saza hy or kia guna hy

meny tmhary maan k kirdaar pr koi ungli uthae ya koi ilzaam lagaya k tm apny us baap ki aulaad ho jiski god may palay ho ya ksi or ki?? meny tmhy tmahry ksi ayatuaal ka hawal dia k tm uski tarhan paida huy??

or tm to mun pr hi mukar jaty ho. apni post sy hi phir jaty ho.. agr tm isy mutay ka topic nahi samjhy thy to tm ny yeeh baat kiun ki k mey alag sy mutay pr topic bna kr us pr bahas krun? tmhara koi deen iman koi zubaan hy??

tm itny dair sy apni paidaish ka tareeka nahi sabit kr say jo tmhary apny ghar ki baat hy or bahas krny ka shok hy tmhy... is liay tmhy hr koi zaleel krat hy or koi tm sy ilmi bahas nahi krna chata

wehshi

Mufti

tmhari bataen hamesha ki tarhan jhot ki milawat alfaaz ka hair phair or zaeef riwayaten hoti hen..... tm pahly to puri koshish krty rahy k bachay ki nangy paida hony sy apny imam ko defend kr sako lakin jub meny pucha k bachy or mard mey kia fark hota hy to tmahri bolti band ho gaye.. or meny tmhary ksi imam k nangay paida hony pr aitraaz kia hi kub jo tm yeh misalen khud sy day kr khus hoty rahy k bacha nanga paida hota hy or yeh nabi ki sunat hoti hy is liay mthara imam nanga nikal aaye to kia bura hy.. tm ney us bichayra imam ko to yeh keh kr nanga nikaal dia or khud to tm kapray pahan kr bethy huya ho.. yeh to na insafi hy yar...

tmny dusri koshihs ki k harzat Adam or hawa A.S ney nanga zaur kia or is jawaz ko tm bachpan sy seenay sy laga k bethy rahy k koi suni tmhary imam k nangay aany pr aitraaz kry ga to tm usy yeh jawab dy kr baazi jeet lo gy.. tm pahly to mujhy Hazart Adam AS or hawa A.S k zameen pr barhana utarny ki riwayat do mujhy iski zarurat hy us k baad mey tmhy iska bhi mun tor jawab dun ga yahan sy bhi tm apny imam ko kapray pahnany men kamyaab nahi ho sako gey

hazrat mosa A.S to ek pathar k pichy ja kr chup kr nahaty thy or unki qoam k log sary ek sath nangy ho kr nahaty thy.. lakin tmhara imam hota to patha k pichy bhi nahi chupta balky apni sharamgaah pr chuna lga k wahan khara ho jata kiun k yeh tmahri kitabon mey hy.. or tm is sunaat pr kitna amal krty ho k apni sharamgaah pr chuna mal kr bahir beth jaya kro.. koi puchy to keh den ak tmahray imam bhi yun hi krty thy..

umm -ul momineen Ayesha RA

yeh tmhari apni gandi zehniat ki baat hey k Hazrta Ayesha ra ney do logon ko ghusal janabat kr k dikhaya tha ..

or Rasool Allah saw ney konsi khandak khod ty huay kappray utaray thy??

or hmari books mey aesi riwayat hon ya hamy nanga hona bura lagy na lagy is pr baat to ho hi nahi rahi.. or nanga paida hona fitri amal hy bewakuf nabi ku sunat nahi hy.. nabi ho ya gair nabi sub aesy hi paida hoty he .. is liay yeh misaal mat do

or hamaray kon sy bohot sy ulmah hen wo or konsi kitaben hen jin mey Hazrat Mahdi A.S ki paidaish ko mana hey?? or hen bhi to bilkul ghalat hen woh.. i liay mujh sy riwayat ki baat kro .. aesy moolvi or aesa imam apny pas hi rakho ..

Batman1

Tum shayed meri posts sahi terha nahi perhtay,mein ne pehli post mein hi complete jawab de diya tha uss mein bachay k nunga paida honay ki bhi misaal thi aur hazrat adam a.s aur hazrat hawa a.s ki bhi misaal thi lakin tum ab dundi maar rahay ho :P

Tum mujhay koi aik aisi misaal bata do jo duniya mein aaya ho aur woh kapray pehan ker aaya ho to mein maan looan ga k Imam Mehdi a.s ka yeh amal ghalat hai.

Ab tum aisi misaal le ker aao ge khua woh bachay ki padaish wali ho ya zahoor ki ho :P

Hazrat Moosa a.s k baray mein complete batao k kiya woh nungay ho ker pathar k peechay bhagay ya nahi aur kiya loagon ko apna sab kuch dikhaya ya nahi,baat ko ab ghumao mat :P

To tum bhi nungay ho ker bazaaron mein bhaga karo kiun k tumharay dharam mein to Sunnat e Nabi Hazrat Moosa a.s hai,chalo bazar mein na sahi apnay ghar mein hi bhaga karo nungay ho ker ta k tumharay ghar walon ko bhi tumhara dunda nazar aa jaye aur woh tumhain bhi mard jaan lein hazrat Moosa a.s ki terha :P

Ab atay hain ayesha ki riwayat ki teraf.

Aray ghussa kiun kertay ho ??

Yeh sahih bukhari ki riwayat hai aur tashreeh mein tumharay pandit ne likha hai k yeh bohat acha maal hai jo ayesha ne kaam ker k DIKHAYA phir dosri jagah likhta hai k woh dono mehram thay mehram aurat ka sar aur ooper ka badan bhi dekh sakta hai :P

Aur dosri baat ab tum kaho ge beech mein perda tha.

Iss per bhi mein baat ker hi loon kiun k baad mein tum kaho ge tum ne pehli post mein yeh baat kiun nahi bataye :P

1. Kiya Madina mein musalman mard marr gaye thay k 2 mard aik aurat se ghusal e janabat seekhnay pohnch gaye ??

2. Kiya unn 2 mardon ko kabhi life mein ghusal e janabat ki zaroorat nahi pari thi aur agar pari thi to woh pehlay kiya kertay thay ??

3. Agar beech mein pera tha to ayesha ko ghussal kernay ki zaroorat kiun paish aaye ??

Ab Imam Mehdi a.s ki padaish ki agar sunni dharam mein likhi ho to tum nahi mantay aur agar yeh likh diya jaye k woh abhi paida hon ge to tum foran maan letay ho,issay kehtay hain asli sunni jo deeth bhi hota hai aur jahil bhi.

Aur tum khandaq k waqiyat perhna uss mein Rasool Allah saww ka nunga hona mil jaye ga phir jawab bhi dena :P

Batman1

Kam se kam mein tumhain itna samajhta hoon k tumharay paas thora hi sahi lakin ilm hai lakin hairat ho rahi hai k tum wheshi jaisay jahil k bachay ki baat perh ker wah wah ker rahay ho :P

Agar tum ilm rakhtay ho tumhain riwayat aur durait ka farq pata hona chahiye.

Yeh jahil ki aulad riwayat se duarit ko jhutla raha hai.

Riwayat agay peechay ho sakti hai lakin durait nahi hoti.

Aur Imam Hussain a.s ka 8 zilhajj ko rawana hona riwayat hain lakin Karbala mein yazeedi foaj k hathon shaheed hona durait hai.

Umeed hai k tumhain riwayat aur durait k baray mein ilm ho ga werna kisi aalim se iss baray mein pooch saktay ho.

Jahan tak wheshi ki baat hai to mujhay yaqeen hai k jab yazeed lanati ne Madina per hamla kiya tha aur sahaba ki betion se fael e haram kiya tha jis se kam se kam 1 hazar bachay harami paida huay thay,iss wehshi ki nasalb hi ussi kisi harami se chali hai,tabhi issay yazeed bohat pyara hai,zahir hai jins jins se mohabbat kerti hai,yeh duniya ka asool hai :P

Kya

sunehri76

you are right

aisay logon se koi bhi behas ki gunjaish hi nhn jin ko na Nabi SAW ka ehtram hai na sahaba ka

jo bas apni history ki lakeer peetatay hain

to peetatay rahain lakeer bhi aur seena bhi jo Allah ne in ka muqadar ker diya hai qayamat tak

batman1

sirif safar e karbala hi nhn au rbhi sab kuch yeh sabit nhn ker saktay main ne to hazar bar pooch ahai lekin yeh log bhag jatay hain

1

kesay USMAN RA shaheed ho gai jab k un k derwazay per HASSAN RA aur HUSSAIN RA pehra de rahay thay kya USMAN RA ka gher 10 KANAAL main tha k awazain baher tak hi nhn aain

2

shahdat e USMAN k baad 3 din tak baghiyon ne unhain dafan nhn kernay diya

kahan thay in k ALI RA , HASSAN RA, HUSSAIN RA jin ki bahaduri k qisay gatay nhn thaktay yeh log?

3

kiun USMAN RA ki shahadat ka badla lenay k naam per ALI RA ne apna dar ul khilafa change kiya MADEENA se KUFA? kya us waqt un ki HUB ERASOOl khatam ho gai thi k jis jagah ko NABI SAW ne apna merkaz banaya wohi chor diya

4

jab Yazeed RA ki BAIT k liyay governer madeena ne HUSSAIN RA se kaha to kiun unhon ne kaha k mujhay kuch mohlat chahyay aur raton rat sab logon ko le ker MAKKAH k liyay nikal kheray huway kiun na kaha k main nhn kerta bait YAZEED ki

5

jab kufiyon ne letters likh ker bulaya tah to kiun kufi bhag gai HUSSAIN RA ka sath denay se

is ka matlab to yeh huwa na k YAZEED RA se ziyadah KUFI GHADAR E HUSSAIN hain

kiun ALI RA ne aisi jagah apna dar ul khilafa banaya? jinhain her cheez ka ilam hai kesay un se ghalat fesla huwa?

Nabuwat to Allah ki teraf s emilty hai aur her NABI ka beta NABI nhn hota, IMAMAT kesay milty hai aur kesay her IMAM ka beta bhi IMAM huwa? kis terah IMAMAT ki ibtidaa hui aur kiun NABI NE ALI KO IMAAM ka derja na diya jsi terah yeh log detay hain

4 khulfa rashdeen ki shan main NABI SAW ki ahadees hain lekin kiun ALI RA k baray hi aisi ahadees pesh ki jati hain

hazaron shiyet ki kitabon main likha hai k QURAN ka aik hisa ya 10 siparay ABU BAKR RA ki bakri kha gai jab k us waqat tak QURAN matbooa shakal main nhn tha aur na hi siparay ki taqseem hui thi

aur bohat kuch hai jis ka jawab kabhi nhn milta

sirif wohi history aur falsfa milta hai jo QURAN ki ayat ko tor maror ker banaya gaya hai

aik aakhri sawal kya ALI RA ne yehi kalma perha tha jo aj yeh log perhtay hain kiun k kalma iman ki buniyad hai ager yeh kalma hai to ALI RA ne yeh kiun na perha aqqedat main ager iman k buniyadi juz main tabdeeli ho sakti hai to phir puray iman main bhi to yeh log ker saktay hain na??????

Sunehri76 and wehshi

je mujhy bhi is baat ka ahsaas ho gay hy k mufti tabarae or gustak shia hey.. or in jesy logon ki gustakhion ki waja sy shia sunni fasadat hoty hen.. kiun k mufti jesy log gustakhian krty hen.. meny isi liay kaha tha k mey Mufti sy ab ilmi bahas nahi krun ga.. or myrizvi nd wehshi ki baat sy itifaaq kia tha. lakin phir bhi baat sy baat nikalti chali gaye kiun k is ney Ashab -e Rasool SAW khasusan khulaafay muslimeen ki shaan mey gustakhian krni shuru kr din thin.

mey yahan ek cheez wazay kr dena chata hun k meny na to ahlay bait mey sy 11 imam ki shan mey koi gustakhi ki hey or na hi Imam Mahdi A.S ki shaan mey koi gustakhi ki hey.. yeh mery iman ka hisa hey.. meny shia k 12th imam k baray mey shia ki apni kitab sy hawala dia hy...

or Ahlay sunnat ka shia k us 12th sy koi taluk nahi hy jo ghaar mey chupa hua hy or jub bahir aaye ga to musalmano ka qatal aam kry ga . Hazrat Ayesha ra ko qabar sy nikal kr un pr had jari kry ga.. sunni ulamah ka qatal aam kry ga, Abu bakar RA umar RA ko Qabron sy nikal kr jalay ga.. or bhi lambi list hy usky jaraim ki jo shia ki motabar books mey mojud hey ......

jahan tak baat hy Imam mahdi AS ki to hamary paas bohot s mustanad or authentic riwayat mojud hen jin mey Imam Mahdi A.S ki complete information hey k jiska Name Muhammad hoga or unky walid ka name Abdullah hoga or Walida ka name Amina hoga.. mey ek hawala deta hun

لَوْ لَمْ يَبْقَ مِنَ الدُّنيَا إِلا يَوْمٌ وَاحِدٌ لَطَوَّلَ اللَّهُ ذَلِكَ الْيَوْمَ حَتَّى يَبْعَثَ رَجُلا مِنْ أَهْلِ بَيْتِي يُوَاطِئُ اسْمُهُ اسْمِي ، وَاسْمُ أَبِيهِ اسْمَ أَبي .

Rasool Allah saw ney farmaya k woh mery ahlay bait mey sy hoga or mery name pr uska name hoga mery walieden k name pr usky walaideen ka name hoga ( hawala : Aitiqaad Al behqi, baab ul Emaan)

yeh ek hawal kafi hy mufti ki us bhondi baat ka k suni ulmah ny bhi apni ktabon mey shia k 12th imam ko imam mahdi mana hey ...

mufti ney apni gandi zehniat ki waja sy ahlay sunnat ki book bukhari mey hazrat Ayesha ra k do logon k amny ghusal janabat kny ka jo ghatia ilzaam kagaya hy uska jawab mey zarur dun ga takay pta chaly jaye k nufti ney us riwayat mey kesy makari r farab sy khayanat ki thi

Mufti

yeh hi farq hey haamry mey or shia mey k hum Quran o Hadees sy chimty rehty hen or usi ko apna deen o iman ka juzw samajhty hen.. or jahan tak baat hey tareekhi wakiat ki or riwayat ki to hm un wakiaat ka inkaar nahi krty .. hm unhy tareekh mey huay ek haadsay k tor pr lety hen jiska Quran o sunnat aqaid o arkaan say koi taluk nahi hota... ya to un wakaiat ka ziakr ksi k fazaail bian krny k tor pr krty hen ya ibrat ka sabak deny k liay ya phir tareekhi maaloaat k liay.... magar tm log tareekh ko apny mazhab ka hisa samajyt ho or tmahra mazhab bhi un tareekhi wakait un haadsat pr tika hua hy .. jeys tmhara mazhab saqifa sy paida ho kr karbala pr khatam ho jata hey.. bich k do satoon siffin or jamal hen..

ab riwayat idhar sy udhar ho jaey ya wakia .. hamey koi fark nahi prta is liay karbala bhaly moharam mey hua ho ramzan mey ya safar mey . is baat sy hamy koi khaas dilchaspi nahi hoti.. kiun k hm us wakiay k paigaam or maqsid ko dekhty hen.. jub k tm un wakay mey apni pujaa paat krty ho makhsoos dino mey.. ab woh idhar udhar ho jayen to tmari yeh puja paat or moharam mey hony walay tamashon ki koi bunyaad nahi bachti..

mey ek baat clear kr dun k meny Karbala k wakiay ka inkaar nahi kia.. or na hi koi us wakiay ka inkaar krta hy... meny karbala k safar ki baat ki thi or kaha tha k karbala ki dusri kahanio ki tarhan yeh bhi ek afsana hy.... is liay riwayat or duriat ki bahas sy mera taluk nahi hy.. mery nazdeek to karbala chand ghanton ka wakia tha..

kahirr ... mujy Karbala pr mazeed koi bahas nahi krni yahan.. tm ny jo kehna hy jo samajhhna hy samajhty raho