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Myrizvi: Kahan Ghayeb Hain Rizvi Saheb?

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info1234 Group: Members  Joined: 27th Nov, 2009  Topic: 14  Post: 600  Age:  31  
Posted on:28th Sep 2011, 8:50pm
 

rizwi bhai aap ka kuch waqt darkar hai :P

rizwi bhai mujhay aik baat batain. pichlay 2 salon se aap meri posts yakeenan parh rahay hain. agar apse ma yeh kahun k mujh par aik bharpoor andaz main tanqeed karain tau aap kia kahain gy? kia main ziada jarihana hun ? ap k khayal main meray andaz e bayan main kia tabdeeli honi chahiey? kia meray andaz se ta'ssur ghalat mehsus hota hai ? kia main bahut mushkil andaz main likhta hun jo kisi ki samajh main nahi ata? jo bhi aap behtar samajhtay hian k jo apko meri tehreer main khami mehsus hoti ho ussay khul kar bayan karain.
is k ilava yeh sab main us "waba" k pasmanzer main bhi pooch raha hun, aur jissay yakeenan aap nay bhi parha hai. tajarba tau apka bhi "Mr Abdullah" k sath hai. us lehaz se ap kia kahain gy? mujhay sakht chir honay lagti hai k dawa karnay walay se sawal poocha jaey tau woh aik lafz bolay beghiar ghaib ho jaey. mera dil chahta hai k jesay "vaccines" bimarion se bachnay k liay di jati hain usi tarhan is mamlay main bhi logon ko mutawakka "wabai imraz" se immunize kar dia jaey.
myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 130  Post: 7720  Age:  55  
Posted on:29th Sep 2011, 9:41am
 

jawab hazir hai

- agar apse ma yeh kahun k mujh par aik bharpoor andaz main tanqeed karain tau aap kia kahain gy?

A: ap bahoot "ghalat" aadmi haiN. nah "moqah" dekhtay haiN nah "mahal" nah "hawa ka rukh" k kiss taraf ko chal rahi hai ... (chalo tum odhar ko, hawaa ho jidhar ki:) nah hi apko logouN k jazbaat o ehsasaat ki kuch "par.waah" hai bus ap har issue par 'qalallah' o 'qala rasool Allah (saw) ki gardaan kiyeh chalay jatay haiN...kia "zamaanay" main 'pinapnay" ki yehi "bataiN" haiN??? ham "ahlay dunya" apkay iss "sakht behaviour" ki sakhti say mozammat kartay haiN

Q: kia main ziada jarihana hun ?

A: yeh sawaal kam aur 'etraaf e jurm" zeyadah hai... "jaarihana" to ap haiN...magar otna hi jetna k aik surgeon ko oss mareez say hota hai, jiska oss nay operation karna hota hai...agar surgeon "maamta bhari mohabbat" say apnay mareez ko dekhega to oss par nishtar zani kaisay karega?

Q: ap k khayal main meray andaz e bayan main kia tabdeeli honi chahiey?

A: jab ap "ilmi andaaz" main guftagoo kartay haiN to zaahir si baat hai k apki baat 'awamunnas" k sar par say guzar jati hai /hogi. ilmi guftago, awamunnas k liyeh hoti bhi nahi, khaah onhaiN samajh aa.ay yaa nah aa.ay... aisay 'mokaalmay" sirf "concerned" logouN k liyeh hotay haiN aur ontak apka "message" easily pahonch jata hai.... haaN agar ap purely "academic guftagoo" ko "awami" andaaz main "bayaan" karna chaahaiN to andaazay bayaan ko mazeed 'simplify' kar saktay hain....magar mera khayaal hai k yeh aik alag "art" hai...kaheeN aisaa nah ho k iss "chakkar" main ap "nafsay mazmoon" hi say aagay peechay" nikal jayain. lehaza ap apnay maujoodah standard ko barqarar rakhain "awaam' ko chahiyeh k woh apna 'level' mazeed up karain :)

Q:kia meray andaz se ta'ssur ghalat mehsus hota hai ? kia main bahut mushkil andaz main likhta hun jo kisi ki samajh main nahi ata? jo bhi aap behtar samajhtay hian k jo apko meri tehreer main khami mehsus hoti ho ussay khul kar bayan karain.

Ans: answered above. jab ap urdu main kissi "ilmi topic" likhtay hain to etna mushkil nahi hota. aur iss say zeyadah "asaan" ho bhi nahi saktaa

Q:is k ilava yeh sab main us "waba" k pasmanzer main bhi pooch raha hun, aur jissay yakeenan aap nay bhi parha hai. t
A: ab maiN aisi 'waba' ka aadi saa hogaya houn... ap yaqeen karain k last 15 years main net forums maiN etna kuch likh chuka houn, etni pani pat ki jangaiN lar chuka houn, etna kuch sun aur sah chuka houn k ab NCF k "tanaze'aat" par sewaa.ay hansi aanay k aur kuch nahi aataa. ghussah tak nahi :)
 
Q: ajarba tau apka bhi "Mr Abdullah" k sath hai. us lehaz se ap kia kahain gy? mujhay sakht chir honay lagti hai k dawa karnay walay se sawal poocha jaey tau woh aik lafz bolay beghiar ghaib ho jaey.
 
A: meri sochi samjhi roy hai k aisaa woh log kartay haiN jinka kuch nah kuch relatinship "monaafeqat" say zaroor hota hai. warnah aik "true believer" (khaah woh x/y/z kisis par bhi believe karta ho) mokaalmay /bahas say rahay faraar ikhteyaar nahi karta, apni ghalati sabit honay par kabhi apni ghalati ko mannay say inkaar nahi karta, debate k dauran dushnaam taraazi nahi karta, ikhtelaafay roy ko "mokhaalfat" ka darjah nahi detaa...lehaza aap aisi situation maiN yeh samajh laiN k apkay mokhatib ka talluq kis "groh" say hai. phir apko onka koi behaviour hurt nahi karega....... jaisay agar iss waqt main apko gaaliyoun say nawaaznay lagoun to apko bahoot bora lagegaa, ap hurt hongay...lekin agar koi dr. apkay kaan maiN yeh "haqeeqat" kah day k aray yeh myrizvi to aik 'psyco case' hai. to kia yeh "jaan" kar bhi apko meri baatoun par gussah aayegaa... nahi naa ... agar aayaa to phir ap k baray main wohi dr. yeh fatwa day sakta hai k ap bhi...:)
 
Q: mera dil chahta hai k jesay "vaccines" bimarion se bachnay k liay di jati hain usi tarhan is mamlay main bhi logon ko mutawakka "wabai imraz" se immunize kar dia jaey.
 
A: yeh "tareeqah elaaj" iss beemaari k liyeh "nahi" hai... "motawaqqah ikhlaaqi wabai imraaz" say bachaanay k liyeh takleef dah "Teeka" lagaana, surgery karna, yaa karwi kaseli dawayee denaa ... kuch kuch naa.monaasib hai....bilkul aisay hi jaisay...gurbah kushtan rozay awwal" maiN miyaan g nai naweli dulhan k "motawaqqah sarkashi" ko kill karnay k liyeh cat ko kill kardetay haiN. yeh behaviour "islami adal" k khilaaf hai... haaN jiss qadar marz paida hota jaa.ay, nazar aataa jaa.ay aap ossi qadar taiz nishtar chalaa saktay hain... magar "peshgi" nahi
 
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info1234 Group: Members  Joined: 27th Nov, 2009  Topic: 14  Post: 600  Age:  31  
Posted on:29th Sep 2011, 5:58pm
 

itnay tafseeli jawab ka bahooooooot shukria.... :)


hmmm.... aesi creative tanqeed aap se hi mutawakku thi... apki sab baatain nihayet darust hain, inshAllah sab par amal karnay ki koshish karon ga.... wesay bhi... "chhotay talab" main ghaltian kar k bahot kuch seekha ja sakta hai, lekin "baray talab" main koi ghalti jan-leva sabit ho sakti hai.. :D
awamunas wali baat bhi bilkul darust hai. InshaAllah ainda is baat ka dhiyan rakhnay ki koshish karon ga.

asal main mujhay jin forums ki adat si ho chuki hai, shaid unki wja se bhi meray liay is tarhan likhna aam si baat hai.. lekin "aesa andaz" main sirf un logon k liay istemal karta hun jo daleel ki bjaey "ilfaz ki funkari" se illogical baatain dusron par thopnay ki koshsih kartay hian. kia yeh bhi ghalat rawaiyya hai?

warna ma khud is baat ka qail hun k jitna ho sakay asan se asan tar zaban main baat karni chaiey takeh "mukhatib" aik kashish mehsus karay, koi inferiority mehsus na karay.

is k ilava "ilmi baatain" main is niyyat se bhi karta hun k jissay nahi pata woh bhi kuch janay aur apni soch main wusat laey.. ghissi pitti khud sakhta daleelon se log bahar ana chahtay hi nahi hian... wesay apki baat bilkul darust hai k sirf concerned logon se hi is kisam ki discussion karni chaiey.

baharhal apnay log apnay hi hotay hian.... yahan is forum par chahay jo kuch bhi hota hai, lekin apnay logon ki aik apnaiyat si hai, jiski wja se yahan likhna ziada acha lagta hai... :)

"..haaN jiss qadar marz paida hota jaa.ay, nazar aataa jaa.ay aap ossi qadar taiz nishtar chalaa saktay hain... magar "peshgi" nahi..."

hmmm.. right... guidance ka bahut shukria

WEHSHI Group: Members  Joined: 17th Aug, 2010  Topic: 46  Post: 2532  Age:  49  
Posted on:29th Sep 2011, 6:36pm
 

myrizvi

baqi sab to theek lekin

"hawa ka rukh" k kiss taraf ko chal

ap k is kiss per etraz hai is ka aik S niakal den werna wohi na ho jai

HUM DUA LIKHTAY RAHAY WOH DAGAH PERHTAY RAHAY

:):):):)

myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 130  Post: 7720  Age:  55  
Posted on:30th Sep 2011, 3:32am
 

haaa haaaa

wehshi bhia tussi v naa.. aakhir ap kiss kiss ko ops i mean k kis kis ko rokogay lol "roman-english" nah to english hai nah urdu ... yeh "teesri nasal" type ki shaii hai ...mujhay iss say shadeed nafrat hai...go k last 16 years say moslasal likh raha houN...

waisay ab "urdu-forum" waloun ko roman say jana chora lena chaahiyeh...ab bahoot say "urdu forum maiN urdu unicode main bahoot khoob.soorati say likha jaraha hai aur yahaan ki admin urdu likhnay waloun ki jaani dushman bani howi hai abhi tak

myrizvi Group: Members  Joined: 20th Apr, 2008  Topic: 130  Post: 7720  Age:  55  
Posted on:30th Sep 2011, 3:38am
 

info bhai

sachi baat to ye hai k iss forum par maiN zeyadah say zeyadah 3.5 or 4.5 qabil fazil log hain (including info, waterr, wehshi etc), jinki tahreerouN say main bahoot kuch seekhta houN. yeh alag baat hai k bahoot see aqalmandi ki bataiN bewaqoof.oun say bhi seekhi jati hain aur maiN bhi indirectly to onsay bhi seekhta rahta houn lol (tafa.nun bartaraf:)

meri zati khaahish hai k ap issi tarah likhtay rahaiN...mujhay bhi 'apnay logouN" k darmayaan likhnay, onsay mokalmah karnay ka lutf aataa hai. issi liyeh iss qism k forum maiN bhi active hota houN (apnay ahlay khanah say chup kar lol)

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