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Ablution Taking: Wazoo Ka Tarika In Urdu

Religion and Culture
 
 
 
sadheart Group: Members  Joined: 04th Nov, 2011  Topic: 1  Post: 89  Age:  26  
Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 2:29am
 

or Hazrat Muhammad (SAW)

ne farmya hadees me hai ye eid sb eid me se bahteen hai or aye ALLAH jo ali a.s se mohbbt karen us se mohbbt kr jo ali a.s ko dost kren use dost rkh jo ali a.s bugz rakhe use bugz rakh .or farmya e ali a.s siwaye momin ke tujhse mohbbt nhi karega or siwaye munafiq ke tujhse bugz nhi karega...
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Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 3:57am
 

Gadeer or Maidaan arafaat


tote_sapne
jub ALLAH pak rasool a.a.w se farmya k NABUWAT tamam krdo is akhri khutbe ke bahd........ap ne hujat ul wida ka akhri khutba suna .........jub rasool pak s.a.w MOLA ALI A.S ka hath tham kar hawa me buland kia or farmya .........." Man Kuntum Mola Fahaza Ali un Mola"

sadheart
eid ghadeer this is day deen_e_islam completed by the order of ALLAH PAK &

delivery of full &finnal msg...
alhamdulillah.....eid e ghadeer wo eid hai jb hujat ul wida pr Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ne khuda ke hukum se mola ali a.s ka hath buland kar kr kaha ..
man kuntum mola fahaza ali un mula..
jis ka me mola uska ali mola jo mere bahd sb momin ka wali hoga or qayamat sb ka mola rahega ..or farmya beshk ali a.s mjhse hai oe me ali a.s hoon.orfarmya jis ali a.s ko bura kaha us ne mjhe bura kaha .

My Reply:

kabhi map utha kr dekha bhi hy k gadeer hay kahan??
Gadeer main konsa huj hota hy??? huj to maidaan arafaat main akhri khutba deny k baad mukamal ho gya tha to hujatul wida pr rasool saw ny yeh khutba kahan dia? gadeer my ya makah k maidaan arafaat main huj krty huay akhri khutba dia??

Mufti Group: Members  Joined: 10th Oct, 2011  Topic: 4  Post: 548  Age:  38  
Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 4:33am
 

Batman1

kabhi map utha kr dekha bhi hy k gadeer hay kahan??Gadeer main konsa huj hota hy??? huj to maidaan arafaat main akhri khutba deny k baad mukamal ho gya tha to hujatul wida pr rasool saw ny yeh khutba kahan dia? gadeer my ya makah k maidaan arafaat main huj krty huay akhri khutba dia??

Janab aap ko maqaam per etiraz hai ya kalaam per etiraz hai ??

Over efficency kiun dikhanay ki koshish kertay hain meray bhai ??

Aaap kis baat per baat kerna chahtay hain maqaam per ya kalaam per...


Mufti Group: Members  Joined: 10th Oct, 2011  Topic: 4  Post: 548  Age:  38  
Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 4:42am
 

Batman1

pahli info hi galat hy Hakim ibn Hizam bhi Kaaba main paida huay Sahih Muslim (Kitab al-Buyu`, Bab al-Sidq fi al-Bay` wa al-Bayan).
al-Hakim, Mustadrak (1990 ed. 3:549)

Ibn Hajar, al-Isaba (#1802)

Aray bhai inn ref. se hamara kiya taluq ??

Yeh jhootay ref. yeh jhootay waqiyat aap sirf apnay bhaion ko bewaqoof bunanay k liye use karein meray bhai...aap agar hum se baat kerna chahtay hain to shia books se ref. dein...

Next time khayal rakhna k jhootay ref. humein na quote karein pls.

Shia book k hisaab say to rasool arabi saw pr pahli surat (Iqra) nazil hony say bhi pahly hazrat Ali pr Quran ki surat aagaye .. or lazmi si baat hy k unki walida nay bhi yeh surat parhi .. yani k rasool saw par pahli surat nazil hony say pahly hi yeh surat aa gaye .

(book al kafi 1 ,387)
Hazrat Ali ra ki jub paidaish hui to farishton nay aapk ki ankhon k darmian
sura inaam ki yeh ayat likhin 

اور تمہارے پروردگار کی باتیں سچائی اور انصاف میں پوری ہیں اس کی باتوں کو کوئی بدلنے والا نہیں اور وہ سنتا جانتا 
(115)ہے 


Iss mein aap ko kiya etiraz nazar aa gaya ??


kia mojuda Quran hazrat Ali ra ka jama kia hua hy??

Kiya aap k aqeeda mein yehi Quran first time jamah hua tha ??


Mufti Group: Members  Joined: 10th Oct, 2011  Topic: 4  Post: 548  Age:  38  
Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 4:55am
 

Batman1

عن أبي عبد الله (عليه السلام) قال: إذا نسيت فغسلت ذراعك قبل وجهك فأعد غسل وجهك ثم اغسل ذراعيك بعد الوجه فإن بدأت بذراعك الايسر قبل الايمن فأعد غسل الايمن ثم اغسل اليسار وإن نسيت مسح رأسك حتى تغسل رجليك فامسحرأسك ثم اغسل رجليك۔ 
الفروع من الكافي 35/3۔



Imam Jafar ra nay farmaya k agar tum bhool kr sar ka masa krny say pahly pairon ko dho lo phir (yaad aany par) sar ka masa krlo or baad main dubara pairon ko dho lo .

Aap ka ref. mujhay mil nahi raha agar aap baab no. aur riwayat no. bata dein to mujhay dhoondnay mein asani ho jaye gi...



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Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 5:43pm
 

@ Mufti

Janab aap ko maqaam per etiraz hai ya kalaam per etiraz hai ??

Over efficency kiun dikhanay ki koshish kertay hain meray bhai ??

Aaap kis baat per baat kerna chahtay hain maqaam per ya kalaam per..


mujhy kalaam k ghalat mafhoom leny pr aitraaz hy. mujhy kalaam k sath hujjatul widah ko mansoob krny pr aitraaz hay. Mujhy kalaam ko bina siaq o sabaq k paish krny pr aitraaz hy.


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Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 5:59pm
 

Mufti

Aray bhai inn ref. se hamara kiya taluq ??

Yeh jhootay ref. yeh jhootay waqiyat aap sirf apnay bhaion ko bewaqoof bunanay k liye use karein meray bhai...aap agar hum se baat kerna chahtay hain to shia books se ref. dein...

Next time khayal rakhna k jhootay ref. humein na quote karein pls.


Reply :

is main itna jazbati hony ki kia baat hy??? apko kia lag rha hy k main Hazrat Ali ra ki fazeelat ko ghatany k liay yeh hawala day raha hun.. pahly zra dekh to lain k us waqt kaaba main paida hona khasusiat thi bhi ya nahi. janaab us time kafir o mushrik mard o autrain sar say pair tak nangay ho kr tawaaf krty thy. kaabay k andar charon taraf but hi but bharay huay thy. or aurtain wahan apny devi dewtaon k samnay bachay paida hony ko fazeelat samajhti thin. pta nahi kitny log us k andar paida huay lakin tareekh main zaida tar ek ka name aata hay. jub k Hazrat Ali ra ki riwayaat ghalat hain.. or shia ki books k mutabik to Hazrat Ali ra nai paida hoty hi sajda kia tha .. agar kaabay k andar paida huay thy to konsy but k aagay sajda hua?? charon taraf to but hi but thy.. chalo agar ksi insaan k samny koi sajda karay ya ksi dusri cheez k samnay sajda kry to phir bhi chalta hay. lakin but k aagay krna bhalay niat Allah ki hi ho hr surat main galat hay. or Ahaly sunnat ka moqaf hay k Hazrat Ali ra nay zindagi main kabhi bhi ksi bhi but k aagay sajda nahi kia.. Hazrat Ali ra ki shaan main gullu krny wali man garat or jhuty kisay kahania aap apni majlis main hi sunaya karain ya ksi bachay ko raat ko sulatay huay sunaya karain.. hum Ahlay sunnat k paas alhamdullillah ahlay bait ra or Hazrat Ali ra ki shaan main bian ki gain bohot si authentic riwayaat hain jhuti or ajeebo gareeb kahanion ki zarurat nahi hay ..

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Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 7:01pm
 

Mufti

Shia book k hisaab say to rasool arabi saw pr pahli surat (Iqra) nazil hony say bhi pahly hazrat Ali pr Quran ki surat aagaye .. or lazmi si baat hy k unki walida nay bhi yeh surat parhi .. yani k rasool saw par pahli surat nazil hony say pahly hi yeh surat aa gaye .

(book al kafi 1 ,387)
Hazrat Ali ra ki jub paidaish hui to farishton nay aapk ki ankhon k darmian
sura inaam ki yeh ayat likhin

اور تمہارے پروردگار کی باتیں سچائی اور انصاف میں پوری ہیں اس کی باتوں کو کوئی بدلنے والا نہیں اور وہ سنتا جانتا
(115)ہے


Iss mein aap ko kiya etiraz nazar aa gaya ??

Reply:

zra ghor to karain.. Rasool saw pr pahli ayat 40 year ki age main utri. jo sura Alaq ki ayat thi or Hazrat Ali ra us time paida huay jub rasool saw ki age 30 year thi.. yani pahli sura nazil hony say 10 saal pahly Hazrat Ali ra ki wiladat hui to iskamatlab hy k Hazrta muhammad saw pr pahli ayat nazil hony say 10 saal pahly hi sura inam ki yeh ayat aa gain or hazart Ali ra ko bhi khabar ho gae or unki walida ko bhi.

kia mojuda Quran hazrat Ali ra ka jama kia hua hy??

Kiya aap k aqeeda mein yehi Quran first time jamah hua tha ??


mojuda Quran jo mukamal kitaab ki shakal main hy yeh sirf ek hi tha jo Hazrat abu Bakar ra k zamany main kitabi shakal main jama kia ..

ab mery sawal ka jawab dain

****************************************

Aap ka ref. mujhay mil nahi raha agar aap baab no. aur riwayat no. bata dein to mujhay dhoondnay mein asani ho jaye gi...

aray bhaye wazu k baab main hy yeh . talash karain mil jaye ga.. or asli kafi main dekhny ki koshih kia karain bohot si baaton main to tarjuma krty huay dandi maar di jati hy

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Posted on:10th Feb 2012, 7:01pm
 

Mufti

Shia book k hisaab say to rasool arabi saw pr pahli surat (Iqra) nazil hony say bhi pahly hazrat Ali pr Quran ki surat aagaye .. or lazmi si baat hy k unki walida nay bhi yeh surat parhi .. yani k rasool saw par pahli surat nazil hony say pahly hi yeh surat aa gaye .

(book al kafi 1 ,387)
Hazrat Ali ra ki jub paidaish hui to farishton nay aapk ki ankhon k darmian
sura inaam ki yeh ayat likhin

اور تمہارے پروردگار کی باتیں سچائی اور انصاف میں پوری ہیں اس کی باتوں کو کوئی بدلنے والا نہیں اور وہ سنتا جانتا
(115)ہے


Iss mein aap ko kiya etiraz nazar aa gaya ??

Reply:

zra ghor to karain.. Rasool saw pr pahli ayat 40 year ki age main utri. jo sura Alaq ki ayat thi or Hazrat Ali ra us time paida huay jub rasool saw ki age 30 year thi.. yani pahli sura nazil hony say 10 saal pahly Hazrat Ali ra ki wiladat hui to iskamatlab hy k Hazrta muhammad saw pr pahli ayat nazil hony say 10 saal pahly hi sura inam ki yeh ayat aa gain or hazart Ali ra ko bhi khabar ho gae or unki walida ko bhi.

kia mojuda Quran hazrat Ali ra ka jama kia hua hy??

Kiya aap k aqeeda mein yehi Quran first time jamah hua tha ??


mojuda Quran jo mukamal kitaab ki shakal main hy yeh sirf ek hi tha jo Hazrat abu Bakar ra k zamany main kitabi shakal main jama kia ..

ab mery sawal ka jawab dain

****************************************

Aap ka ref. mujhay mil nahi raha agar aap baab no. aur riwayat no. bata dein to mujhay dhoondnay mein asani ho jaye gi...

aray bhaye wazu k baab main hy yeh . talash karain mil jaye ga.. or asli kafi main dekhny ki koshih kia karain bohot si baaton main to tarjuma krty huay dandi maar di jati hy

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Posted on:11th Feb 2012, 4:32am
 

Mufti

Jin azaa ko Allah ne dhonay ka hukam diya hai hum unhain wudhu mein dhotay hain aur jin per masah kernay ka hukam diya hai hum unn per masah kertay hain...

Aur jaisa k mein ne pehlay bhi bata diya hai k tayamum jo wudhu ka nemobadal hai uss mein sirf 2 azaa per tayamum kernay ka hukam hai aur woh sirf hath aur moun hain...paon per tayamum kernay ka koi hukam nahi hai phir hum kaisay paon dhoein...


Reply

is baat ka bhi jawab dain k shia wazu sy pahly pairon ko dhoty hen ya nahi??

apko tayamum ki bhi samajh aa jaye gi phir

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Posted on:11th Feb 2012, 5:02am
 

Batman1

is baat ka bhi jawab dain k shia wazu sy pahly pairon ko dhoty hen ya nahi??

apko tayamum ki bhi samajh aa jaye gi phir

Janab wudhu se pehlay aap jo bhi karo woh wudhu ka hissa nahi hota,bachon wali baatein mat kiya karein aur mustahab aur wajibat ko mix up mat kiya karein janabd...thora sa asool seekhein k wajibat kiya hotay hain aur mustahabat kiya hotay hain...

Aap wudhu se pehlay 10 dafa moun dho lo,50 dafa hath dho lo woh wudhu ka hissa nahi hota...

Wudhu ka hissa wohi hota hai jo neeat k baad start kiya jaye aur jo wajibaat hon...

aray bhaye wazu k baab main hy yeh . talash karain mil jaye ga.. or asli kafi main dekhny ki koshih kia karain bohot si baaton main to tarjuma krty huay dandi maar di jati hy

Asali aur naqli kafi nahi hoti sirf pages ki change hoti hai,aap aisa karein k aap k paas kafi ka page to ho ga aap woh upload ker dein ta k na mujhay shaq rahay aur na hi koi aur uljhan rahay...



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Posted on:11th Feb 2012, 9:11am
 

mufti

Janab wudhu se pehlay aap jo bhi karo woh wudhu ka hissa nahi hota,bachon wali baatein mat kiya karein aur mustahab aur wajibat ko mix up mat kiya karein janabd...thora sa asool seekhein k wajibat kiya hotay hain aur mustahabat kiya hotay hain...

Aap wudhu se pehlay 10 dafa moun dho lo,50 dafa hath dho lo woh wudhu ka hissa nahi hota...

Wudhu ka hissa wohi hota hai jo neeat k baad start kiya jaye aur jo wajibaat hon...

moulana mufti sahab aap ny kasam kahe hui hy kia asan sy asan baat ki khichri bnany ki??? meny yeh aitraaz kub kia k wazu say pahly pair dhony say woh wazu ka hisa bn gaya hy??? btain??

meny yeh aitraaz kia hy k wajib kia hy or kiun hy or mustahab kia hy or kiun hy?? meny to yeh baat hi nahi kahi abhi tak na meny yeh kaha k wazu say pahly pari dhony ka matlab hy k woh mustahab amal kia ya wajib kia??

meny aapsy sidhi si baat puchi y k wazu sy pahly pair dhty hain ya nahi?? iska jawab mil gaaya k han dhoty hain...

isi ko continue kr k main pucta hun k kiun krt hain shia aesa?? kia mazak main krty hain ya shok hota hy unhy ya ksi ahtiaat ki bina pr krty hain??

cheezain main nahi mix kr rha aap kr rahay han. agar apko mix krna lag rha hy to main dubara aasaan lafzon main puch laita hun k shia wazu krny say pahly pair kiun dhty hain?? ab yeh bahas mat shuru kr dena k woh aesy dhoty hain ya waisay dhoty hain. woh is namaz k liay dhoty hain ya us namaz k liay dhoty hain. woh wazu sy pahly nahaty bhi hain ya wesy hi kr lety hain...

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Posted on:11th Feb 2012, 9:18am
 

reference

Asali aur naqli kafi nahi hoti sirf pages ki change hoti hai,aap aisa karein k aap k paas kafi ka page to ho ga aap woh upload ker dein ta k na mujhay shaq rahay aur na hi koi aur uljhan rahay...

mery kahny ka matlab tha k kafi ki asal ibarat ko dhondny ki koshish kia karain kafi to ek hi hay magar uska tarjumai bohot say ho sakty hain urdu main bhi ho sakty hian english main bhi ho sakty hain lakin original source ek hi hy jo abu jafar kulaini ki likhi hui hy.

aap har hawalay pr yun krty rahain gain to aesy to kaam nahi chalay ga. mery pas time kum hota hay main hr hawalay ka scna nahi laga sakta meny hawala dia hy wahin milay ga

faruy kafi main kitabul taharat main wazu ka baab hay wahan '' wazu main shak'' ka baab hy i think 21 number hy us main chek karain hadees number 6
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Posted on:12th Feb 2012, 9:02am
 

Batman1

Kiya aap k aqeeda mein yehi Quran first time jamah hua tha ??


mojuda Quran jo mukamal kitaab ki shakal main hy yeh sirf ek hi tha jo Hazrat abu Bakar ra k zamany main kitabi shakal main jama kia .. 

ab mery sawal ka jawab dain

Sab se pehlay Mola Ali a.s ne Quran jamah kiya tha...

Aur aap ko kis ne keh diya k mojooda quran bau bakar ne jamah kerwaya tha ??

yeh hazrat usman ne jamah kerwaya tha baqol aap k aqeeda k...

pahly zra dekh to lain k us waqt kaaba main paida hona khasusiat thi bhi ya nahi. janaab us time kafir o mushrik mard o autrain sar say pair tak nangay ho kr tawaaf krty thy. kaabay k andar charon taraf but hi but bharay huay thy. or aurtain wahan apny devi dewtaon k samnay bachay paida hony ko fazeelat samajhti thin. pta nahi kitny log us k andar paida huay lakin tareekh main zaida tar ek ka name aata hay. jub k Hazrat Ali ra ki riwayaat ghalat hain.. or shia ki books k mutabik to Hazrat Ali ra nai paida hoty hi sajda kia tha .. agar kaabay k andar paida huay thy to konsy but k aagay sajda hua??

Khana kaaba mein paida hona fazeelat nahi thi ??

Kiya woh maqam e ehteraam na tha ??

Kiya Rasool Allah saww ne bhi ussi khana kaaba ja ker umrah nahi kiya tha,agar khana kaaba ka ehteraam ya ahmiat na thi to phir yeh umrah buaton ka kiya gaya tha ??

Janab thori history perha karo ta k haqeeqat pata chalay...mola Ali a.s ne Khana Kaaba k ander sajda kiya aur buat chat per thay na k Khana Kaaba k ander :P

Agar itnay bachay paida huay to sabit karo meray bhai taveelein ker k aap yeh fazeelat kam nahi ker saktay...

Aray janab jab buat Khana Kaaba mein thay hi nahi to phir sajda unn ko kernay ki kahan se baat aa gaye ??

Aur kiya neeat bhi buaton ko sajda kernay ki thi ??

Aur kiya Rasool Allah saww ne umrah bhi buaton ka kiya tha ??

Aur aap k ilm mein izafa k liye bata doon k nunga tawaf sirf woh kerta tha jo makkah ka rehaishi nahi hota tha aur unn mein se bhi woh jin ka koi waqif makkah mein nahi hota tha k uss se kapray le ker woh pehan ker tawaf ker sakay,kiun k yeh asool tha k makkah se bahir k loag unhi kapron mein tawaf nahi ker saktay thay sirf makkah k loag hi kapray pehan ker twaf ker saktay thay ya woh jo makkah k kisi shaks se kapray le leta tha...

is baat ka bhi jawab dain k shia wazu sy pahly pairon ko dhoty hen ya nahi??

apko tayamum ki bhi samajh aa jaye gi phir

Wudhu se pehlay uss waqt paon dhoye jatay hain agar woh saaf na hon agar aap k paon saaf hain to phir paon dhonay ki zaroorat nahi,issi liye yeh mustahab hai na k wajib...

Aap ka ref. mujhay mil gaya hai lakin aap ki translation aur book ki translation mein bohat farq hai,issi liye mein wait ker raha hon k kisi aisay sahab se milon jo arabic ki translation mujhay ker de ta k mein clear ho jaon...


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Posted on:13th Feb 2012, 7:58am
 

myrizvi

koi faraq nahi paRta1. kam say kam aik baar hath mouNh dhonay say bhi wazoo hojata hai.
2. teen say zeyadah baar haath mouNh dhonay say bhi koi faarq nahi paRta, wazoo ho jata hai
3. albattah masnoon tareeqah yehi hai k har part ko 3 baar dhoya jaa.ay...bhool chook maiN kam ya zeyadah honay say bhi wazoo ho jata hai

wallaho aalam bissawab

Mein ne masnad humbal mein aik hadith perhi hai k 3 baar se ziada azaa dhonay se wudhu sahi nahi rehta,aap ne kaha k wudhu ho jata hai...iss ko pls clear ker dein.


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Posted on:17th Feb 2012, 6:19pm
 

Mufti

Sab se pehlay Mola Ali a.s ne Quran jamah kiya tha...

Aur aap ko kis ne keh diya k mojooda quran bau bakar ne jamah kerwaya tha ??

yeh hazrat usman ne jamah kerwaya tha baqol aap k aqeeda k...

shia kutub say sahi sanad k sath koi riwayat dikhaen jis main hazrat Ali ra k Quran jma krny uski datwen krny ka zikar ho...

or meny sawal yeh kia tha k kia mojuda Quran Hazrat Ali ra ka jma kia hua hy iska jawab abhi tak nahi dia

Hazrat Usman ra nay Quran ko sirf ek tarz main parhny ka bandobast kia tha woh bhi Abu bakar ra k jma kiay huya Quran k hisaab say

Pahla Quran Hazrat Abu bakar ra hi nay jma krwaya tha iski sahi riawat sunni books main mojud hy.


Khana kaaba mein paida hona fazeelat nahi thi ??

Kiya woh maqam e ehteraam na tha ??

Kiya Rasool Allah saww ne bhi ussi khana kaaba ja ker umrah nahi kiya tha,agar khana kaaba ka ehteraam ya ahmiat na thi to phir yeh umrah buaton ka kiya gaya tha ??

Janab thori history perha karo ta k haqeeqat pata chalay...mola Ali a.s ne Khana Kaaba k ander sajda kiya aur buat chat per thay na k Khana Kaaba k ander :P

Agar itnay bachay paida huay to sabit karo meray bhai taveelein ker k aap yeh fazeelat kam nahi ker saktay...

Aray janab jab buat Khana Kaaba mein thay hi nahi to phir sajda unn ko kernay ki kahan se baat aa gaye ??

Aur kiya neeat bhi buaton ko sajda kernay ki thi ??

Aur kiya Rasool Allah saww ne umrah bhi buaton ka kiya tha ??

Aur aap k ilm mein izafa k liye bata doon k nunga tawaf sirf woh kerta tha jo makkah ka rehaishi nahi hota tha aur unn mein se bhi woh jin ka koi waqif makkah mein nahi hota tha k uss se kapray le ker woh pehan ker tawaf ker sakay,kiun k yeh asool tha k makkah se bahir k loag unhi kapron mein tawaf nahi ker saktay thay sirf makkah k loag hi kapray pehan ker twaf ker saktay thay ya woh jo makkah k kisi shaks se kapray le leta tha...

agar koi fazeelat ki jga ho to kia lazmi hy wahan paida hona bhi fazeelat ho? agar fazeelat thi to rasool Allah saw ki wiladat bhi wahin ho jati

Khanay kaaba bilkul ahtraam ki jga thi or isko ahtraam dubara rasool Allah saw nay baksha ..

Rasool saw ny umra fatah makkah k baad kia tha or button ko khaas tor pr nikaal k kia tha janaab.

sahi bukhari ki hadees hy k

Ibn abbas ra say riwayat hy k jub rasool Allah saw makkah tasheer lay to Kaaba k andar janay say inkaar kia kiun k andar butt mojud thy.. pahly saray butt nikalway or andar ja kr charon taraf Allah o akbar ki takbeer kahi
(Bukhari Chapter 5 no 584)

tareekh aap parhhen janaab buton ko chat par kia dhoob lagwany k liay rakh dia tha?/ kaaba k andar 360 butt thy har taraf or chat par shuru main sirf ek butt tha jo button ka sardar tha woh bhi mun k bal zameen pr gir gya tha phir usay bhi andar rakh dai gya tha..

jaha tak niat ki baat hy to meri post gor say parh lety to yeh sawal nahi krty

kapron ki post useless hy..

rasool saw ki paidaish say kuch dair pahly tak k waakiat record pr aana shuru huay thy us say pahly ki konsi history ki kitaab hy jis say bachay paida hony ka hawala dun. agar us time history ko maintain rakha gya hoga to hawala bhi mil jay ga


Wudhu se pehlay uss waqt paon dhoye jatay hain agar woh saaf na hon agar aap k paon saaf hain to phir paon dhonay ki zaroorat nahi,issi liye yeh mustahab hai na k wajib...

2012 main rehny walay mufti sahab ko to maloom hy k hamaisha pairon ka masah kafi nahi ho sakta is liay pahly pair dho liay jatay hain to kia nauzubillah Allah ko nahi pta tha is masly ka jo quran main sirf pairon k masay ka kaha.. or quran ki ayat main pairon ka masah nahi hy pairon ko dhony ka hukam hy

Aap ka ref. mujhay mil gaya hai lakin aap ki translation aur book ki translation mein bohat farq hai,issi liye mein wait ker raha hon k kisi aisay sahab se milon jo arabic ki translation mujhay ker de ta k mein clear ho jaon.

agar aapky alim nay aam shia awam ko faraib deny k liay tarjuma galat likha hy to is main mera kasur nahi hy.. aap dunia k ksi bhi insaan sy is ka tarjuma kr wain gain woh mera hi tarjuma karay ga agar woh diyanatdaar hoga to .. mera tarjuma galat hy to kia arabic statemtn bhi galat hy?? us main ek aam insaan bhi dekh sakta hy k pair ko dhony ka kaha hy masah krny ka nahi.. is liay main arabicbhi likhta hun takay agar tarjumay main yeh ilzaam lgaya jaey k meny dandi mari hy to arabic main to aesa nahi ho sakay ga ..

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Posted on:17th Feb 2012, 10:42pm
 

Mufti & Batman

App dono apne debate ke liye topics divert na karee. Iss topic mai uzzu ka tareeqa tha kuch or nahe. app dono se guzarish hai next post debate par na kare topic se related posts kare. Agar itna shouq debate karne ka hai to koi naya topic apne liye start kare or waha par debate kare yaha iss topic mai nahe.
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Posted on:18th Feb 2012, 6:59am
 

Batman1

Agar aap ko etiraz hai to aap shia kutbu se sabit karo k Hazrat Ali a.s ne pehlay Quran nahi likha tha...

Jahan tak baat hai hazrat usman k Quran likhwanay ki baat to janab aap ko ilm hona chahiye k unhon ne baaki tamam mashaf jalwa diye thay aur wohi quran nafiz kerwaya jo unhon ne likhwaya tha...

Agar aap iss masla per perhna chahtay hain shaih bukhari mein yeh waqiya mojood hai...

Aap kon se zuban samajhtay hain batman sahab,mein kitni baar bata chuka hon k yeh jo Quran hamaray paas hai yeh na Mola Ali a.s ka likha hua hai aur na hi abu bakar...hazrat abu bakar ka jo quran likha hua tha bhi to woh jala diya gaya...

agar koi fazeelat ki jga ho to kia lazmi hy wahan paida hona bhi fazeelat ho? agar fazeelat thi to rasool Allah saw ki wiladat bhi wahin ho jati

Agar fazeelat na hoti to iss waqiya ka zikr kiun kiya gaya ??

Aap apnay 3 khulfa k baray mein bataein ge k woh kahan paida huay ??

Zahir hai woh kisi fazeelat wali jagah per paida nahi huay tabhi to unn ki padaish ka naam o nishan hi nahi hai...

Khanay kaaba bilkul ahtraam ki jga thi or isko ahtraam dubara rasool Allah saw nay baksha ..
Khana Kaaba uss se pehlay bhi ahteraam ki hi jagah thi tabhi to abrah ka waqiya hua agar ahteraam ki jagah na hoti to Allah ababeel ko bhej ker uss ki foaj ko tabah kiun kerta ??

Janab Rasool Allah saww ne to 8 hijjre mein ja ker buat toray,uss se pehlay ussi Khana Kaaba ka tawaaf ker k aaye thay balkeh hajj kernay ja rahay thay jisay umrah mein tabdeel kiya gaya,aap ne bataya nahi k woh kiya buaton ki ziyarat aur tawaaf kernay k liye gaye thay ??


Rasool saw ny umra fatah makkah k baad kia tha or button ko khaas tor pr nikaal k kia tha janaab.

Mein fatah e makkah se pehlay ki baat ker raha hon aur aap ki sui fatah per ataki hui hai :P

Janab uss umrah k baray mein kiya fatwa aap dein ge jo Rasool Allah saww ne kiya jab k wahan buat mojood thay,chalein Mola Ali a.s to bachay thay unn ka amal aap buaton ko sajda bhi maan lein to bhi unn per koi hudd nahi uss age mein magar Rasool Allah saww to MashAllah 50+ thay aur aap k abu bakar,umer o usman bhi baligh thay unhon ne phir buaton ka tawaaf kiun kia ja ker aur buaton ka umrah kiun kiya ??


sahi bukhari ki hadees hy k 

Ibn abbas ra say riwayat hy k jub rasool Allah saw makkah tasheer lay to Kaaba k andar janay say inkaar kia kiun k andar butt mojud thy.. pahly saray butt nikalway or andar ja kr charon taraf Allah o akbar ki takbeer kahi
(Bukhari Chapter 5 no 584)


Yeh useless ref. aap mujhay mat diya karein aap ko aur kitni baar samjhaon ??

bukhari aap k liye hujjat ho gi meray liye nahi jo aap khud ki baat ko sacha sabit kernay k liye apnay hi aqeeda ki book se ref. de rahay hain...next time khayal rakhiye ga.


tareekh aap parhhen janaab buton ko chat par kia dhoob lagwany k liay rakh dia tha?/ kaaba k andar 360 butt thy har taraf or chat par shuru main sirf ek butt tha jo button ka sardar tha woh bhi mun k bal zameen pr gir gya tha phir usay bhi andar rakh dai gya tha.. 

jaha tak niat ki baat hy to meri post gor say parh lety to yeh sawal nahi krty

Aap ne neeat per jawab hi kab diya,kher ab to neeat se baat agay chali gaye hai ab to aap k asool k mutabiq Rasool Allah saww ne buaton ka tawaaf aur umrah kiya...



kapron ki post useless hy.. 

Mein ne pehlay hi kaha tha k yeh sirf aap k ilmi izafa k liye hai kiun k aap ne tawwaf ka zikr kiya tha jis ka mein ne jawab diya...

rasool saw ki paidaish say kuch dair pahly tak k waakiat record pr aana shuru huay thy us say pahly ki konsi history ki kitaab hy jis say bachay paida hony ka hawala dun. agar us time history ko maintain rakha gya hoga to hawala bhi mil jay ga


Janab yeh aap ko kis ne kaha ??

Rasool Allah saww k walidein ki shaadi bhi nahi hui thi tab k waqiyat bhi history mein mojood hain,shaadi k baad bhi waqiyat mojood hain...yeh kaisi taveelein ker rahay hain aap ??

2012 main rehny walay mufti sahab ko to maloom hy k hamaisha pairon ka masah kafi nahi ho sakta is liay pahly pair dho liay jatay hain to kia nauzubillah Allah ko nahi pta tha is masly ka jo quran main sirf pairon k masay ka kaha.. or quran ki ayat main pairon ka masah nahi hy pairon ko dhony ka hukam hy

Aap aik baar apnay iss jawab ko khud perhiye ga aap ko khud ajeeb lagay k aap ne baat kiya ki hai...

Janab jism ka saaf hona wudhu ka asool hai,uss k liye wudhu mein zikr kerna zaroori nahi hai,ab wudhu mein kahin nahi likha k jism ka paak hona zaroori hai to kiya aap na-paak jism k sath wudhu ker k namaz perh lein ge k Allah ne aisa nahi kaha to yeh sab jaiz hai ??

Allah ne sirf wudhu k 4 ahkamaat bataye hain quran mein jis mein 2 ko dhona hai 2 per masah kerna hai aur tayamum jo wudhu ka namobadal hai uss mein unhi 2 azaa per masah kernay ka hukam hai jin ka Quran mein dhonay ka hukam hai agar aap k aqeeda mein paon dhona wajibat mein shamil hai to phir aap tayamum mein paon per masah kiun hai kertay ??

Aur meray bhai mein aap se baar baar pooch raha hoon k aap k aqeeda mein waisay paon dhonay ka hukam hai lakin socks pehni hon to aap ka woh hukam khatam ho jata hai aur aap socks per masah kertay hain...kiya aap iss ka Quran se hukam sabit ker saktay hain ??

agar aapky alim nay aam shia awam ko faraib deny k liay tarjuma galat likha hy to is main mera kasur nahi hy.. aap dunia k ksi bhi insaan sy is ka tarjuma kr wain gain woh mera hi tarjuma karay ga agar woh diyanatdaar hoga to .. mera tarjuma galat hy to kia arabic statemtn bhi galat hy?? us main ek aam insaan bhi dekh sakta hy k pair ko dhony ka kaha hy masah krny ka nahi.. is liay main arabicbhi likhta hun takay agar tarjumay main yeh ilzaam lgaya jaey k meny dandi mari hy to arabic main to aesa nahi ho sakay ga ..

Mein ne aap per ilzam hi kab lagaya ??

balkeh mein ne aap ko kaha hai k mein InshAllah kuch time k baad iss riwayat k sath aaon ga...iss mein itna shoar machanay ki baat hi kiya hai meray bhai ??

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Posted on:18th Feb 2012, 10:33am
 

Bens Ke Age Been Bajana

Lagta hai mere samne koi bens kharri hai or mai oss ke samne bheen baja raha hoo.
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Posted on:18th Feb 2012, 10:51am
 

wazu ke tareeke sth kch or bhi ho to kya jayga bhai


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