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perm 4ever |
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| Posted on:8th Jul 2011, 5:13pm |
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 In Islam Why Boys And Girls Are Not Allowed To Talk With Fiance?
hey!! everyone what's up!! i have questions to asked.. 1. there is no concept of girlfriend and boyfriend in islam. right?? so, it means islam does not allow it's followers to love with some one, in other words you can say islam does not allow love marriages? is this right?
2. a girl/boy are not allowed to talk with their fiance? about anything but after marriage they can talk? what is this? if they talk before then what would be the problem?
3. why don't parents teach their children about sex and sexual feelings, so that they would have no problem in future?
i have lot more but first answer these..
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dom_man |
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| Posted on:8th Jul 2011, 5:37pm |
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dragging islam in it well, i still don't understand why people drag religion in such small matters which can be handled by simple common sense. |
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WEHSHI |
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| Posted on:8th Jul 2011, 5:48pm |
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perm4ever islam is a way of life
when islam says or order for any thing we muslims have no power to ask why
but for your satisfactin i ll try to explain you my words ll not the pure words of islam cause i have not enough knowledge as any Aalim
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this confirm that when a male n female meet the atrection begins this atrection is on the bases of oposit sex
socity bound us in relations and relations give the modesty in eyes about mother , sister and other respacted relations
supose a husband wife divorced n wife keep son n husband keep daughter with them
they never met n child also
in college boy saw his owne sister n atrect to her as a girl and they fall in love
what to do ????
they have relation but they don't know this type of incidence hapend so many times in thsi world and came in news
same thing when a boy n girl confirm taht they don't have any respcted relation they got atrection of facial n physical beauty
love has no boundries n teachings of parents can't bound the LUST in valuse
i don't know you are muslim or not but islam says when a girl get periods n become adult marry her n same as with boy
cause islam is the way of life given by the creator of human bieng and he knows us better then us he also knows taht human can't control his lust specialy man
now a days we think our kids are not able to handle the life so we can't marry them
actualy we never try them to be indipandent
if u know history MOHAMMAD BIN QASIM defeated RAJA DAHIR in the age of 17 n that time he was married n has 1 son
in india they tried to teach kids about sex in th 7th grade n the result was very distring even they started a channel in 1990's
the only thing that male female hav no control on thier lust never ever
last words
every company when send any product in market for sale they issue a manul that how to use this product n how to protect n how to trobble shoot
n every one follow this manual
same Allah send the manual for humans and this is QURAN we should hav to folow Quran for using of each n every minit of our life in the way of QURAN
hope u get the awnser if not we are here for you
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perm 4ever |
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| Posted on:8th Jul 2011, 5:52pm |
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wehshi these are not the answers of my questions.............. |
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myrizvi |
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| Posted on:9th Jul 2011, 12:17am |
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Q&A; 1. there is no concept of girlfriend and boyfriend in islam. right??
Ans: true. islam society maiN raaij iss tarah ki "friendship" ko allow nahi karta
Q: so, it means islam does not allow it's followers to love with some one, in other words you can say islam does not allow love marriages? is this right?
Ans: Islam "love marriage" k khilaaf nahi hai. Islam sirf marriage say qabal "love-affairs" (like tanhaa meeting, outing, romance, romantic talk, kissing, hugging etc etc) ko allow nahi kartaa.... agar apko koi jaannay wala /wali (like neighbours, classmates, coleagues yaa koi aur bandah /bandi "pasand" aa jaa.ay aur ap ossay apna "life-partener" banaanah chahain to ossay directly yaa kissi 3rd person k zariyah propose karsaktay haiN... apnay parents ko lay kar oskay ghar jaa saktay hain...aur donoun k agrred honay par shadi karsaktay haiN.... yeh bhi "love-marriage" hi howaa, jissay islam allow karta hai........ but shadi say qabal sirf "pasand" kar lenay k baad (aur nikaah say qabal) above mentioned 'love-affairs' ko batadreej aagay baRhaanay ko islam allow nahi kartaa
2. a girl/boy are not allowed to talk with their fiance? about anything but after marriage they can talk? what is this? if they talk before then what would be the problem?
Ans: nikaah say qabal donouN "naa.mahram" hain...jo sirf zarooratan hi aik doosray say baat kar saktay haiN, jaisaa k deger logouN say baat hoti hai... romantic /love affairs related baat, even yeh k gup shup bhi allowed nahi k yeh aagay baRh kar zobaan ka zanaa maiN convert hojata hai
3. why don't parents teach their children about sex and sexual feelings, so that they would have no problem in future?
Ans: yeh ap apnay parent say poochaiN... ham main say koi apka parent nahi hai :)
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perm 4ever |
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| Posted on:9th Jul 2011, 5:46am |
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alirajput n rizvi ali ji thanks for answering and i'm not accusing, i'm asking.
rizvi ji islam does not allow friendship....strange.. if i like someone i would like to meet, go for outing...you said it is not allowed in islam.........so how would i come close or familiar to her.....and without understanding how could anyone fall in love??? as you said that no meeting outing etc etc means no love marriage..because if you see someone you likes her, it's attraction, not love.....in other words i can say islam does not allow love marriages?? please can anyone guide me?
the problem is that if i got marry with some one i don't know(arrange marriage) and after some time, we were fail to develop understanding then what?? 1. DIVORCE or 2. SACRIFICE. if we divorced then what would happened to the children?? aur faida isi shaadi ka k divorce ho gai jis mai, phir muhasray ki khair ho wo us larki ka jena aazab kar daita hy......aur agara sacrifice kiya jaye tou apni life, apni khushi khatam kar do...khud na jeeo!! yai kia baat hui??
mera parents na mjha teach kia hy aur bht acha kia hy...........maina is site pa ajeb ajeb k sawal dkhay aisy k mai harain rah gaye aur kuch smjh nahi aaye mjha!!! aap smjhao.........yahan pa maina aisy sawal bhi dkhay jaisy k romance kaisy kia jata hy, shaadi k baad kia hota hy, intercourse painful tou nahi hota hy, meri vagina aisi hy, mera penis ki yai problem hy, and my husband wants me to dance on item songs???
aab aap kah rahy hoo k fiance tou baat kar nahi skty hain q k wo na mahram hain..........aur yahan is site pa kia sub mahram hain??? mera sawal k kia yai sahe hy k apni pechan chupa kar koi baat kisi se bhi pouchi ja sakti hay??? is this allow in islam that you can ask any think or talk on any topic to anyone hiding your identity??? instead you ask these type of problems with someone who is mahram to you???
I don't understand this double meanings??
and guys this is my question, i'm not accusing or criticizing... i want to know about islam. i have read many books and meet many aalim but the real and true face is the followers and i'm seeing the real face over here!! |
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myrizvi |
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| Posted on:9th Jul 2011, 6:35am |
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perm 4ever agar ap usa maiN rahna chaahtay ho to apko usa k laws ko follow karna paregaa...khaah woh laws apko "suit" karay yaa nah karay.....yeh nahi hosaktaa k ap raho to usa maiN aur kaho k usa k laws "illogic" haiN lehaza maiN issay follow nahi karouNga /nahi karsaktaa...
issi tarah agar ap muslim haiN to apko islam k laws ko "manna" paRega... khaah yeh apko pasand houN ya nah houN... being muslim agar ap islam k rules regulations ko maantay hi nahi to apkaa imaan hi mashkook hojayegaa... haaN agar maantay to ho, lekin amal nahi kartay to gonaah.gaar hogay...jiski saza agar Allah chaahay to day, chaahay to maaf karday |
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perm 4ever |
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| Posted on:9th Jul 2011, 6:52am |
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rizvi rizvi ji yai mera sawal ka jawab nahi hymjha waqi bht harait hy k aap log joi islam islam kar rahay hoo..mai us k baray mai koi sawal kar raha hoon to aap us k jawab ki jaga yahan wahan ki baat kar rahay hoon, chaalo aap jawan tou day raha hoon baqi kia yahan koi nahi hy?? |
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| Posted on:9th Jul 2011, 7:22am |
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@perm 4 ever
OK I will also share some points here. Could you please tell me, are you a Muslim or Non-Muslim? Now for the answers: 1- When you ask a question about Islam, the answer will be from Quran and Hadith. If you will ask anyone, is it allowed in Islam to tell a lie. The answer will be NO. But it does not mean that the person who is replying you never tells a lie. So you should not give the examples of this forum to learn Islam. You should not confuse Islam with whatever is happening on this forum. 2- If husband and wife both follow islam COMPLETELY, then they will surely have understanding between them. They will fulfill the rights of each other in every way, and they will live a happy life. But the problem is that we don't follow Islam COMPLETELY, that's why there are problems in the relationships. So again don't blame Islam for those problems. Islam does not ONLY say that don't talk with each other before marriage BUT it also says that after marriage fulfil the rights of each other, be courteous to each other, give love and happiness to each other, do justice with each other, support each other, be kind to each other's families etc etc etc.. So if they follow islam, their will be neither DIVORCE nor SACRIFICE. So never take one point of Islam and start blaming Islam, always look at the complete picture.
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perm 4ever |
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| Posted on:9th Jul 2011, 2:36pm |
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dr kamiali first i'm not muslim........i even don't follow any religion...i'm just freesecond i don't blame any one or islam..........
my question was (jaisa k aap na kaha k, fiance tou baat kar nahi skty hain q k wo na mahram hain..........to kia yahan, is site pa kia sub mahram hain??? mera sawal k kia yai sahe hy k apni pechan chupa kar koi baat kisi se bhi pouchi ja sakti hay??? is this allow in islam that you can ask any think or talk on any topic to anyone hiding your identity??? instead you ask these type of problems with someone who is mahram to you or to those who are master of the respective field???)
is mai, maina kisi ko blame nahi kia..jo dkha pouch lia.. because according to my research, islam says, if you have any problem ask it to its master...like if you have a disease go to the doctor.(in case you are female then your first choice would be a female doc, in case there is no female doc available then go to male doc), or if some problem regarding islam go to the aalim...etc etc.. so the question arise here which i have already asked above.
ab mera sawal k jab na-mahrams se baat karna mana hy sexual tpoics pa, to kia yahan is site pa sub k sub mahram hain?? agar nahi to yai galat hoa na!! second, kia apni identity hide kar k kisi se koi bhi question kia ja sakta hy, jahan k yahan kiya jaty hain??? agar haan to mobile pa bhi aur dosri site pa apni identity hide kar k sexual question kiya ja sakty hain??? kia yai allow hy islam mai... masly yahan yai bhi hy k islam na kaha k mahir se pouchu, aalim se puchu!! aab mahir ya aalim har koi to hota nahi hy...matlab k yahan pa jo har koi answer day raha hota hy yai galat hoa!!
yai hain mera kuch sawal..........baqi bad mai!! once again i'm not blaming, criticizing or accusing anyone!! |
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WEHSHI |
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| Posted on:9th Jul 2011, 4:31pm |
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perm4ever we knw ap muslim nhn ho aur koi ap k sawal k jawab main yahan wahan nhn ker raha hai
ap se mear sawal hai k ap k religion k hisab se bata den k kis GRUNTH ya ADHYAAI main likha hai k lerki lerka ka love jaiz hai
ap pakistan main rehtay ho lakin india main aaj bhi bohat saray hindu beraderiyon main lerka lerki ko shadi se pehlay dekhta bhi nhn
ap ager islam k baray is liyay poochtay k ap ko islam ko samjhna ahi to shayed hum sabbohat khushi se ap ko jawab detay lakin ap ka poochna sirif is liyay hai k aap islam ka koi week point talash kero
ap se sawal hai k kya SEETA MATA k PITA NE SOIMVER se pehlay SHIRI RAM ko AGYA di thi k woh SEETA MATA ko le jain kahin baher ghumanay ???
jahan tak main ne RAMAIN perhi ahi us main kahin aisa kuch nhn
ap hum naam nehad musalmano ko misal ban aker woh sawal an kerain jo huamray jazbat k khilaf hon
AIK BAT PEHLAY DETAIL BATA DI AHI K HUM USLAMAN ISLAM MAIN KISI BHI HUKAM K BARAY YEH POOCHNAY KA HJAQ NHN RAKHTAY K AIS AKIUN KERAIN
so ap bhi ehtiyat krain |
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perm 4ever |
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| Posted on:10th Jul 2011, 4:27am |
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wehshi ji maina apna last post main kaha hy k mai kisi bhi religion ko follow nahi karta hoon...........na islam, na hindu, na kisi or ko.........mera hisab se sirf khushi k sath jeena hi sahe hy aisy k kisi dpsry ko dukh na hoo ap k hona ya na hona se!! khair yai hui pehli baat.....aur dosri baat abi tak kisi na bhi mjha mera sawal ka jawab nahi diya hy...mai jo pouchta hoon us ki jaga koi aue baat kahi jati hy...aur rahi baat k mai islam k koi weak pint talash kar raha hoon to janab yahan aap gunah kar rahy hoo, q k islam k mutabit islam mai koi weakness nahi hy jab weakness hy hi nahi to mai kia koi bhi talash nahi kar sakta, ap apni correction karn!! may your ALLAH bless you!
seeta mata ya ram to janab mera in sub koi taluk nahi hy wo date pa jaty thy ya nahi mjha koi fark nahi parta hy.........
aap ko misal na banao to kiss ko banao!! yahan is iste pa aap log hi to hoo, aab k amal se ya jo aap log kaho gy main us se hi to apna sawal nikal kar pouchu ga aur phir islam na jo orders diya hain un se match karo ga, tab hi to koi result aye ga........mai research kar raha hoon, na k weak point search!! agar aap ko meri baat buri lagi is ka matlab k meri bat mai kuch na kuch to sach tha!! aur aap k amal islam k orders k oppose thy..yai result bhi ho sakty hy....mazeed yai bhi k yai site jo k islam k point of view se dosro ki help kar rahi hy yai khud galat hy is k rules aur yahan pa apni sexual problem discuss karna galaat hy islam k mutabit! aur aap log na hi islam ko smjhty hain na jaanty hain, pata nahi kiss baat pa apna ko muslim kahty hain, mera hisab aap ko apna ap ko muslim nahi kahna chaiye sirf yai kahna chaiye k aap log islam islam karty hain is lia aap log islam k mana waly hain!!
khair yai to initial results hain!! kiya pata k bd nmai change ho jayen... mera kam kisi ko blame karna, criticize karna, ya kisi ko takleef daina nahi hay mai to research kar raha hoon.. islam pa, us k followers pa!! |
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| Posted on:10th Jul 2011, 4:41am |
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Research bhai meray!
agar apnay islam pay research karna hai yaa kissi aur religion pay to apko chaahiyeh k oss religion ki religious books ko study karaiN...islam ko jannay k liyeh you need to study quran and sayings of Hazrat Muhammad saw. issi tarah agar net pay islamic sites /scholars say contact karna chaahiyeh. yeh forum aur yahaaN k members islam pay authority nahi rakhtay. hope k ap apni research k liyeh islamic sites like irf.net, islam online etc say rajoo karengay... yeh semi medical forum haiN jo specially sexula info k liyeh hai... jahaaN drs kam aur ham jaisay neem hakeem zeyadah haiN lol |
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| Posted on:10th Jul 2011, 1:32pm |
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perm4ever as myrizvi said
u r welcome if u r intrested to research in good faith
but if u want just as fun to creat some points we r sorry
we already gave u reasons n logics that y islam not allowed male female relation be4 marrieg
if u hav any strong point to ask feel free to ask but again request dont make it
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| Posted on:10th Jul 2011, 2:27pm |
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rizvi n wehshi rizvi ji jo baat na kahi to sahe hy aur maina na sirf Quran parha hy bilkul Nabi saw aur dosry Imam as ki hadees bhi study ki hy.........aur aalim se bhi main contact main hoon, sirf yahan pa hi nahi kahi aur site pa jaisy facebook aur dosri sites pa bhi meri kai logo se musalsaly contac hy........no need to worry!!
Quran, hadees, biographies, religious books mai jo hota hy woh orders hoty hain, facts hoty hain, un mai followers nahi hoty hain, un mai followers ki soch nahi hoti hy, un main followers k views nahi hoty..........mjha un ki talash hy, mainun ko jaana chahta hoon.........mjha jo bhi pata chalta hy, mai us info ko kai aalimo se tele karta hoon, phir wo aalim jo bata'tay hain un se koi result nikalta hoon, phir us result ko again Quran se, hadees se compare karta hoon phir kahi koi result milta hy......it's a long process!!
khair mjha is baat pa bht hayrat hy k islam islam log karty bht hain lakin us k bary mai kuch nahi jaaty, na us ko smjhty hain...bus kisi eik molvi na jo kah diya wo sahe hy aur wohi hi islam bhi........strange!!! aur mjha bht zaida hayrat is baat pa bhi hoti hy k gali gali masjid to hy aur us mai moulana bhi, lakin us moulana ko kuch pata hi nahi hy, Quran parh lia aur kuch hadees yaad kar lia, baat khatam..ab wo janab jo khud kuch nahi jaanty hain wo dosro ko baat rahy hain.....wow!! really strange.........khair mjha kafi aisy aalim mil gaye hain wo waqi aalim hain.. lakin mera sawal abhi bhi wahi hai jahan thy |
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| Posted on:10th Jul 2011, 3:06pm |
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Perm 4 ever
Aap un sawaalon ki baat kar raye ho jo is site say mutaaliq hain?? ya un sawaalon ki baat kar rahay ho jo shadi say pehlay laray larki k aapasa me baat karnay k baaray me hain?? Aap please thora precise karein ma phir aapko reply karta hun. Aur doosri jo baat aap nay kahi Molvi aur Alim k baray me, tau wo bilkul theek hai. Kuch tau waqai theek aalim hain jo aapko bhi mil gaye hain, aur baqi kayi (molvi) hazraat Islam ki real philosophy ko janay bagair just apni ek monopoly qaaiem kiye huway hain. |
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perm 4ever |
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dr kami ali ji sahe kaha........monopoly!! mai kisi religion ko follow nahi karta hoon, is lia hi mai shayed sahe resutls bhi nikal laita hoon.......maina yai bhi dkha hy k logo emotional hain, wo dil ki sunty hain...khair kuch baato main dil ki suni bhi chaiye lakin religion is related to your mind more then your heart.........this is what i think....q k agar kisi na aap se koi sawal kia, like shia suni, 2 baray firk hain musalmano k.....to logo emotional ho jaye hain jiss se bat banti nahi hy or problems create ho jati hain...........khair yai to bad ki baatein hain... filahaal meray jo sawal thy wo yai hain.....1. there is no concept of girlfriend and boyfriend in islam. right?? so, it means islam does not allow it's followers to love with some one, in other words you can say islam does not allow love marriages? is this right?
2. a girl/boy are not allowed to talk with their fiance? about anything but after marriage they can talk? what is this? if they talk before then what would be the problem?
3. why don't parents teach their children about sex and sexual feelings, so that they would have no problem in future?4. jaisa k aap na kaha k, fiance tou baat kar nahi skty hain q k wo na mahram hain..........to kia yahan, is site pa kia sub mahram hain??? mera sawal k kia yai sahe hy k apni pechan chupa kar koi baat kisi se bhi pouchi ja sakti hay??? is this allow in islam that you can ask any think or talk on any topic to anyone hiding your identity??? instead you ask these type of problems with someone who is mahram to you or to those who are master of the respective field??? aap in k jawab daina ki try karn..... thanks you!
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chulbhul |
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perm 4ever nice janab.......i like your research...good go ahead.....i try to answer you!!
1- islam prevents any haram act and allows love marriages as long as that do
not involve haram act
2- If the talk is devoid of what one should be talking about to a strange
[i.e., non-mahram] woman, then there is no problem in it.
3-parents should teach their children(mother to daughter and father to son) about the sexual relation and feeling.this might be really helpful in future in those children life. 4- there is no problem in that as long as that does not involve fordidden
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perm 4ever |
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| Posted on:11th Jul 2011, 3:13pm |
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chulbhul thanks for the info........chulbhul |
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