Ism Khatak
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Posted on:18th Aug 2010, 6:28pm |
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Kissing and Fondling Two Wives
1. I asked this question earlier but could not find it again, so i am re posting. It is clear from fatwas that sex with two wives at a time is haram because the awrah of one woman should not be exposed to another woman. It make sense because married to same man does not make two women married to each other. But can a man kiss and fondle one wife in front of the other or can he do the same with two wives simultaneously without uncovering their awrahs ?
2. Buying and Living With Londi (Topic no: 20146 Posted on:19th Aug 2010, 7:20pm Deleted)
In some of our pashtun tribal area , female slaves are sold. I want to buy one for myself and live with her. I am not able to marry a free woman because I cannot afford wedding ceremony, walima , jewelery and a nice house. Is it permissible to buy and live with a slave woman now a days? Please give your answer in the light of holy quran and hadiths instead of expressing your own views or opinions. |
H/dr_Qasim
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Posted on:18th Aug 2010, 10:12pm |
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ism Khatak
1. jub ap esa kurin gay tu kisi ek wife meah essi feeling develop ho sukti hay ap osy ziyada peyar kurty hen muj say nahi kurty or ap ki kisi ek wife say fight bhe ho sukti hey ap dosri wife kay samny esaa kurny say Gorayzz kurin tu bot achi bat hay ,
2. apky pass londi khureedny ki taqat hay tu apky pas shadi kurny ki ehliyaat bhe mojood hay agur ap kisi women ko khureedna he chahaty hen tu ap khureedin or Bahumi ruzmundi say Shadi kurin or dono mil kur rayin, agur apko family meah dhoom dhaam say shadi kurny ki hassiyaat nahi tu ap ko sadghi say shadi kurny wali bhe bot sari women mil jayngi or ap on khandani women say shadi kur sukty hen,
jaha tuk apky qubayli system meah women ki khureed o furookht hoti hay agur ap osy bhe shadi kur layin or as wife osko apny pass rukhin tu bot achi bat hay,
apko ketni qeemat pay essi female mil jani , 50 000 ,100 000 ,150 000 , ya kum say kum 30 000 meah sumajta hon ap etni amount meah shadi bhe kur sukty hen agura pko family say rishta nahi mil pata tu ap kayin say bhe achi lurky dakh kay bahumi ruzamundi or osky parants ki murzi say shadi kur sukty hen,
or mujy yukeen hay apny ziyada say ziyda pesaa day kur ziyada say ziyada young or khoobsorat lurki khureedni hay tu ku na ap osy tureeqy suleeqy say shadi kurty or apni wife bunaty , keya ap btaa sukty hen apko ketni amount meah female waha mil jati , or yeh bbhe ap bta adayin kay apky haa women ki khureed o furokh kessy hoti hay,
apkay olmaa es bary meah keya kehty hen, kunwari or shadi shoda divorced women ki keya price hay, ap apny es culture kay bary meah tufseel say btayin pher he muzeed behtur juwab apko deya ja sukta hay , londiyaan aj kul wesy hoti nahi hen lakin apky Qubayli elako meah women ki khureed o furookh abi bi hoti hay yeh meah nay sona howa hay kindly zura tufseel say btayeh
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TehminaR
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Posted on:18th Aug 2010, 11:13pm |
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Two Wives Agar to yeh kissing aur fondling aisi hai jo pyar ke izhar ke liay ho yani jis main biwi ki awrah ( naf se ghutnon tak ) dhaki rahay to jaez ha. Laikin agar yeh aisi ho jo mian biwi ke darmiyan tanhai main paish aati ho aur jis main awrah dhaki na rahay to aisa karna na jaez hai. Aisa karna dono ke darmiyan jealousy barhaey ga. Behtar yeh hai ke donon ko aik sath pyar kia jaey take koi bhi nazar andaz hota mehsus na karay. Baqi Allah behtar janta ha.
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Wajoo
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Posted on:19th Aug 2010, 8:26am |
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jawab Agar aap ki do biwian hain to aap ko chaheay ke unn ko alag alag ghar main rakhen. agar alag ghar nahi le saktay to aik hi ghar main alag kamron main rakhen. Pyar se chumna aur hath phairna jaez ha laikin shahwat se nahi. aik ke samnay dusri ke jism ( awrah ) ko nanga karna haram ha.
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Bewaqoof
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Posted on:19th Aug 2010, 1:54pm |
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Fazool Sawalat aap ke profile ke mutabiq aap ki age 17 saal hai. aur aap intehayee fazool qisim ke sawalat ker rahe hai. agar aap ne mazeed fazool qisim ke sawal kiye tu aap ko Block ker dia jaaye ga.
User Name Ism Khatak Age 17 years Gender Male Marital Status UnMarried Qualification FSC Occupation Student City & Country Nowshehra |
Ism Khatak
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Posted on:20th Aug 2010, 4:39am |
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There is no shyness in religion I dont think my questions are " Fazool " as Bewaqoof say. There is no shyness in asking religious guidance. The reason I ask such question here is that i find it convenient rather than asking some Aalim face to face. I might be fazool to many people because marrying two women or buying a londi is fazool to many people, although it has been practiced throughout the islamic history because of being permissible .I thank Qasim for his sincere answer although he failed to produce any reference from Quran and Hadiths. I liked his suggestion to marry londi after buying her but what is the use of marrying her when i keep her as my wife without marriage as islam allows it. I did not find any quranic verse or hadith which says slavery is haram or it will become haram. Our deen is complete and will remain valid till qayamat. we cannot declare something haram which is halal in quran and hadith. But I the reason i asked for references from quran or hadith is that i wanted to make myself sure of its permissibility. Majority of the ulema declare slavery haram now a days , so i thought i might had missed a quranic verse or hadith which banned it. Kindly tell me is there any verse of hadith which declare slavery haram ? If it is something bad then why many great Sahaba ( ra ) kept ghulams and londis?
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myrizvi
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Posted on:22nd Aug 2010, 12:52am |
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slavery is NOT haram 1. Quran, hadees yaa sahabah RA k kissi bhi qaul say slavery ki hurmat ka koi qaul maujood nahi
2. koi bhi aalimay deen kissi aisee shaii ko HARAM qarar nahi day saktay, jissy Quran o hadees maiN HALAL qarar dia gaya ho... slavery ko quran o hadees maiN halal qarar dia gaya hai aur iski kabhi tanseekh nahi howi
3. aaj k ahad maiN (so called) jadeed tahzeeb nay issay "illegal" qarar dia howa hai go k iskay bwajood aaj bhi begaar camps k liyeh mard aur asmat faroshi k liyeh aurtaiN poori dunya maiN khareedi aur bechi jati haiN... iss khareed o farokht k zariyah ghulaam mard n aurat dounouN ka khoob khoob istahsaal hota hai, zinaa kaari ko farogh milta hai aur society maiN jinsi bay raah wari phailti hai
4. islamic method of bravery maiN aik to jinsi bay raahwari nahi phailti doosray har ghulaam aur baandi k bunyaadi insaani haqooq motassir nahi hotay.
5. maha islam dushmani maiN taghhoti quwwatouN )aur onkay muslim agents rulers) nay islamic-bravery ko khilaafay qanoon banaya howaa hai.
6. ajkay maahaul main agar koi muslim islamic slavery ko adopt karta hai ...bandi khareed kar apnay ghar rakhtaa hai to as per islam koi gonaah nahi karta...lekin ossay bahar haal samaaj aur qanoon ki taraf say mushkilaat ka saamna karna parega. |
Ism Khatak
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Group: Members Joined: 14th Aug, 2010 Topic: 1 Post: 4 Age:
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Posted on:24th Aug 2010, 10:11am |
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Thanks myrizvi Thanks myrizvi you were very helpful, others were just avoiding my real question.
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dom_man
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Posted on:24th Aug 2010, 10:41am |
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yes Its Ok There is nothing wrong in kissing and fondling one wife in the presence of the other.Come on guys grow up.Use ur common sense.Don't drag religion in every little matter.it(dragging religion into everything) creates confusion and makes u mentally sterile and docile.
Jis society mein Taboos and tottems jitni ziyada hoti hain wo society utni hee immature hoti chali jaati hai.apni common sense ko use kerna seekhyee. |
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