salam, Dr.i really have a critical problem.i have read many posts in your forum and i also have read the topics on which you have ask not to post any question because alot of questions are already present about them...but my problem is more critical...i know u didnt accept the posts regarding female masturbation,but i insist you to consider mine as it is psycological,,,,i m 20 yrs old now and did masturbation for a long time,without even knowing about it.i tried to left it many times but failed...finally i left it successfully when i realize it a sin.....now its about more than a month i totally left it,even i dont think about it,but know i am psycologically sooooo disturbed,,,,,i have read in your forum that masturbation is not harmful and it does nt cause any harm to the reproductive system,,,,i have read it many times but my mind is still in fear,i am so scared,i have lost my confidence and i consider every one batter than me,i start hating my self,i could not sleep properly at night,and have scary dreams regarding this matter,i offer the prayers regularly....and ask for forgiveness to God but i cnt get my self satisfied,,,,i m in much trouble,,,,i think of my self useless,i consider my self worst person,i am so fearful...whenever i think of the time,i did the sin,,,,i got scared,,,i cant concentrate on my studiez even,,,,infact mjhey her waqt aik hi khouf rhta hay k shayad there is something wrong with me,,,,,,mein bht buri zehni aziyat mai mubtala hunplz tell me wht should i do,mein chote chote incidents se dar jati hun k kahin iss se mjhey koi nuqsan tou nae hoga,,,,the sole reason of it is i m crazzzzzzy about kids,,,,i really love them,,,m scared k mjhey koi problem na ho,plz tell me,mein kaise normal kru apne aap ko?nd one more thing plz tell me kya sex harmones ka masturbation se koi taluk hay?nd m i normal?
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Posted on:4th Apr 2011, 10:27am
Depression.
Dear sister,
What you are describing are classical symptoms of depressions. These symptoms include:
1). Feeling sad/depressed, most of the day.
2).Loosing interest in things that you enjoyed before.
3). Bhook khatam ho jana( and in some cases bohat zyada bhook lagna), resulting in weight changes.
4). Sleep disturbance, raat ko karwatain badalna aur zahan main ajeeb ajeeb khayalat aana.
5).Feeling tired all the time and low energy level.
6).Bohat zyada guilty feel karna aur apna aap ko had say zyada blame karna.
7). Concentrate nah kar paana resulting in difficulty focusing on studies or remembering things.
8). Bohat zyada extreme cases main thoughts of death.
Depression ki main reason brain mai aik chemical “Serotonin” ki kami hai.Yeh baat samajhna ki hai kay har insaan kay ssath masle aur problems hota hain., magar agar serotonin level normal hai to insaan un masloon say effectively deal kar lay ga. Magar agar serotonin level low hai to insaan ka ander in problems ko deal karnay ki salahyat kam ho jaati hai, apna aap par confidence nahin rahta, aur who negative feeings aati hain jaisi aap na batai hain. In your case, aap ko masturbation ki wajah say jo extreme guilt hai, aap usko low serotonin level ki wajah say handle nahin kar pa rahin aur depression main aa gai hain. The good thing is depression is very much treatable, magar agar sahi treatment na ho to complications ho sakti hain. I think you should consult a good psychiatrist and get proper treatment. My best wishes to you.
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Posted on:4th Apr 2011, 5:19pm
Zoya Ali
Ap ne kaha ke ap namaaz parhti hain aur Allah se maafi bhi mangi hai aur ye kaam chor bhi chuki hain to phir aap kyon itni tension le rahi hain.Gunahon se tauba ki jae to Allah maaf kar deta hain ap naumeed na hon or tension na lein aur ap ne kaha ke external mastrubate kia hai to i think is se zyada koi nuqsaan nahi hua hoga ap bas relax rahen aur is bat ke bare mein sochna chor dein jitna ap is ke bare mein sochen gi utna depress hoti jaen gi,
OR agar mastrubation se nuqsaan na bhi hua to is behaviour aur ap ke sochne ki wja se shaid ho jae ab ye ap pe depend karta hai ke ap khud ko kis had tak nuqsaan pohonchana ka irada kar rahi hain sorry i used some hard words but u have to think about it ke mastrubation se jo nuqsaan hua ya nahi lekin ab ap ke sochne se to ap ko zarror ho raha hai
Masrtubation yaqeenan ek gunaah hai aur ye sirf ap nahi aur bohot se log bhi kar rahe hain so try to relax urself
Aur ye bhi sochein ke ap mastrubate karne par kis waja se majboor huen ese khayalat ap zehen mein hi na ane dein.
is forum per bohat baar kaha ja chuka hai k woh baat na kahi jai jis k baray mukamal agahi na ho. specialy deen aur insani sehat k baray.
lakin log modration k chkar main aur khud numaai k liyay jo dil main ata hai keh detay hain
shadi ya male female sex k ilawa kisi bhi terah se lust satisfaction islam main mana hai
jo cheez islam main mana hai woh yaqeenan insan ki health, psychology, family, house, socity k liyay kisi na kisi terah nuqsan deti hai lakin log is main bhi research shuru kr detay hain k sirif mana hai haram nhn .
masterbation islam main mana hai aur jab yeh islam main mana hai to sehat k liyay bhi harmfull hai aur family k liyay bhi
any how
jahan tak bat hai ap ki problem ki to yeh koi khas problem nhn yeh normality ki teraf ishara kerti hai
jab bhi ap koi gunah kerti hain to shetan khush hota hai aur jab ap us gunah ko chor deti hain to shetan ko takleef hoti hai
jab shetan ko takleef ho gi to woh ap ko takleef de ga takay ap disturb hon aur wapis usi kam main lag jain
ap ko koi jismani problem nhn hai lakin zehani tor per aap disturbed ho jis ka seedha seedha ilaj hai k aap khud ko bussy rakhain aur Allah ka ziker kerain
sab se pehlay to aap SURA NOOR copy kr k apnay takiya k ghilaf main rakhian jis side per ap ser rakhty ho takay ap ko raat main sukoon ki neend aai aur shetan se door rahain
is k baad ap subah ki namaz k baad 1 tasbeeh
سبحان اللہ والحمد للہ و لالہ اللہ الاللہ واللہ اکبر
1 تسبیح درود شریف
1 تسبیح
استغفراللہ ربی من کل زنبواتوب علیہ
LIKHNAY MAIN KOI GHALTI HO TO aLLAH MUAF FERMAAI
aap sahi perah len kitab se
aur aik bat yaad rakhain k jab insaan Allah ak gunah kerta hai to Allah se hi muafi mangay
logon k samnay khud ko gunah gar kehna ya apnay aap ko malamat kerna mana hai
Allah ki zaat jab itnay beray gunahon ko perday main rakhti hai insan k to insan khud kiun be perdah hota hai
is liyay khud ko Allah k hawalay kr den aur apni aqal na leraain phir kiun k jab aap khud ko Allah k hawalay ker den gi to woh khud sab rastay asan keray ga
thnx to all frndz nd dr. specially,,,dr. i want to ask a little bit more,
as u knw i m psycologically much disturb,iss liye mjhey choti choti baaton se b bht dar lagta hay,,,,jst want to ask one thing,as i have left that sin but after that sometimes,,,, its very rare ....in dream i feel the same feeling of masturbation,,,,meanz the same lust...some times i woke up ,aur uss tym pe ye feeling peek pe hoti hay,so as i have left this sin,so i didnt do any thing,jst control it,aftr that i instantly feel abdominal pain for 3-4 or5 minutes jst and it vanishes itself,,,,or start mai b when i was trying to left this sin,,,,sometime while doing it,at the peek of that feeling,i suddenly stop doing it,,,and feel abdominal pain for sometime,,,and even sometimes after masturbation also,what do u think,what may be the cause of that pain,,, i m again getting tense...is it harmful?and m i normal?
one thing more dr. i want to say,as u have said that m depressed,and that's true nd u said i need to consult a psychiatrist but i think, i cant ,bcz i cant tell anybody abt this and i even dont want to tell....so tell me hw i myself get control over this depression,
and kindly tell me,,,,that m i normal?masturbation harmful nhi hoti na?
nd whts actually happenz to us when we did this sin?
i,myself is a medical student,may be because of this reason m taking more stress.
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Posted on:5th Apr 2011, 3:45pm
Zoya Ali
aap is ke bare mein zyada na sochein to ap ko ese dreams nahi aaen ge aur i think ke ap ko ye chore zyada time nahi hua hai is liye yeh sab ho raha hai time ke sath ap ko dream ane bhi band ho jaen ge aur pain bhi bas ap mastrubation se door rahen aur ek bar bhi dobara karne ki koshish na karen aur ese chezon se bhi door rahen jis se esa karne ki dil mein khuwahish paida hoti hai
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Posted on:6th Apr 2011, 11:16pm
Depression.
Dear sister,
Aap ka first question yeh hai kay aap ko abdominal pain hota hai. This is because of contractions of uterus ( which happen during masturbation and also when having lustful erotic thoughts).
Regarding depression, I know it is difficult to get treatment. Hamara culture main depression ki awarenesss na hona ki wajah say log ajeeb ajeeb batain banata hain ( which is so unfortunate), aur depressed person ko abnormal samajhta hain aur blame karta hain kay falan person depressed hai to usmain uska apna hi qussoor ho ga. However, jaisa kay main nay pahla kaha, depression is a medical illness ( just like diabetes, heart disease etc) and it is caused by abnormalities of a chemical called serotonin in the brain ( aur ismain depressed person ka koi fault nahin hai). Aap na poocha hai kay aap depression ko kaisa handle karain?? Agar depression mild hai to regular exercise, good night’s sleep, aur balanced diet will be helpful, as well as having positive thoughts ( because our thoughts also effect how we feel). Sometimes, depression main hum apni feelings ko apna under hi rakhta hain aur share nahin karta, and this causes more and more depression. Agar aap ki koi close friend ya sister hai ya koi aur person jis say aap feelings share kar sakti hain to please do that as it would help. Sometimes, even writing your feelings on a diary is helpful. Please note that all these things are helpful in only mild depression. Agar depression zyada severe hai then the treatment is antidepressant medications ( they are very effective and normalize the serotonin levels). However, they take atleast 3-4 weeks to start their effects and generally have to be taken for atleast 6 months. I wish you all the best.
Very well explain by doctor psychdoc, Agreed , just apny ap ko busy rukhain, Masterbation ka sub say bura side effect confidence ka khutam hona hay, jub ap nay apni ess adut pur Qabo pur leya hay tu insah Allah confidence be buildup hoga or apki daily life meah bhe nikhaar aygha, apni daily life ka schedule bnain or busy rehnay ki koshish kurin or essi tumaam chezo say bato say apny ap ko dour rukhain jin say apki sexual desire increase ho, jub ap en bato pur control hasil kur langhi tu apko pher esaa koi musla ni hoga,
THNX TO ALL FOR REPLYING ESPECIALLY DR. BUT DR.AS U SAID K WE CAN GET CONTROL OVER MILD DEPRESSION,HOW CAN WE GOT TO KNOW THE DEPRESSION IS MILD OR ACCUTE?SECONDLY I REQUEST U TO GIVE CLEAR AND STRAIGHT FORWARD ANSWERS TO MY FOLLOWING QUESTIONS,AS THEY WOULD HELP ME IN REDUCING DEPRESSION AND FEELING NORMAL: 1.FROM MEDICAL POINT OF VIEW IS MASTURBATION FOR GIRLS IS HARMFUL FOR THEIR PHYSICAL HEALTH? 2.DOES IT CAUSE ANY HARM TO OUR REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM OR ABILITY? 3.THE GIRLS WHO COMMIT THIS ARE NORMAL?
4.AS IN MY CASE,WHEN WE LEFT THIS SIN COMPLETELY THEN DO WE GET NORMAL? 5.HOW CAN I REALIZE MY MIND THAT I M NORMAL AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME ALHAMDULILAH SO THAT I CAN OVER COME MYINFERIORITY COMPLEX,WHICH IS MY BE JUST BECAUSE OF DEPRESSION? 6.I HAVE READ IN YOUR FORUM WHEN BOYS HV ASKED QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER AS THEY DID THIS SIN FOR A LONG TYM ND DOCTRS HV ANSWERED THEM THAT THEY ARE NORMAL,IS IT THE SAME FOR GIRLS? FINALLY,I WANT TO SAY THAT I M THNKFUL FIRST TO ALLAH AND THEN U FOR GUIDING AND ANSWERING ME.MAY ALLAH BLESS U WITH HIS GRACE IN THIS WORLD AND HERE AFTER.
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Posted on:7th Apr 2011, 10:56am
The answers to your questions.
Dear sister,
Thank you for your kind words, and you are very welcome!
You asked how can a person tell if the depression is mild or severe. The answer is rather complex but I would try to make it as clear as I can. There are some questions that need to be answered:
1): Has the depressed person lost all interest in pleasurable activities ( kisi cheez say dil khoosh nahin hota, even with activities that were previously very enjoyable).
2): Is the depressed person hopeless about the future and feels convinced that the things will not get any better for him/her in the future.
3): Is the depression so significant that it is interfering with the functioning of the individual( for example studies getting affected, or inability to hold a job etc).
4): Depression that is worse in the morning ( right after getting out of bed), and the person feels that he/she is not ready to face the challenges of the day.
5): Excessive self blame and feelings of guilt, to the point where the person starts to feel worthless.
6): Lack of energy to the point that daily functioning is getting impaired.
7): In extreme cases, thoughts like I wish I was never born, or I wish I would die.
8) Having crying episodes 2-3 times a week.
9): Isolating self more ( logon kay saath uthna baithna chor daina).
If the answer to 4 or 5 of these questions is yes, than it would point towards a more severe depression. Another thing to note is that even mild to moderate depression if not properly treated can sometimes progress to severe depression.
You also asked some other questions and here are the answers in the order that you asked:
The harmful effects offemale masturbation on the physical health of females include ruptured hymen.
Some girls insert foreign objects up their vaginas, and of course that increases risk of vaginal tears ( cuts), infection, and sometimes there is the possibility that the foreign object breaks inside and ofcourse that would be very harmful.
Yes, the girls who masturbate are normal.
Yes, people become normal after they stop masturbation ( they are not abnormal in the first place).
It is the feelings of guilt associated with masturbation that you are experiencing, even though you are not masturbating anymore. As you yourself said, it is because of your depression that you are having difficulty overcoming these feelings.
THNX FOR YOUR REPLY.THNX FOR TAKING MA PROBLEM SERIOUSLY AND GUIDING ME.AS U HAVE SAID THAT MASTURBATION COULD BE HARMFUL ONLY WHEN SOMEBODY DID IT INTERNALLY,BUT IN MY CASE IT WAS JUSTEXTERNAL,SO WHAT WOULD U ANSWER FOR SUCH CASE,DOES IT CAUSE ANY HARM TO REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM OR ABILITY?AND THE SYMPTOMS U MENTIONEDFOR DEPRESSION,ALTOUGH THEY ARE PRESENT IN ME,BUT NOW THEY ARE MUCH REDUCED,BUT ONE HINK I AM TRYING TO HANDLE BUT COULDNT THAT HOW CAN I REALIZE MYSELF THAT I M JUST NORMAL,NOTHING WRONG HAPPENS TO ME ND M NT INFERIOR TO ANY BDY?I THINK ITS FEAR INSIDE ME THAT WONT LET ME FEEL THAT M NORMAL.PLZSUGGEST SOMETHING.SECONDLY AS U SAID THAT ABDOMINAL PAIN ISDUE TO UTERUS CONTRACTION,SO IS IT HARMFUL?AS I FEEL THIS EVEN WHEN I LEFT THATSIN BUT SMETIMES IF I FEEL THAT LUST.
M VERY THANKFUL TO YOU FOR UR KIND AND SOFT ATTITUDE.M REALLY IMPRESSED BY THIS FORUM.THE WAY U PEOPLE UNDERSTANDS OTHERS PROBLEM AND GUIDE THEM IS SOOO GUD.U PEOPLE ARE REALLY DOING A GOOD DEED BY GUIDING PEOPLE.MAY U ALL BE BLESSED BY GOD'S GRACE.AGAIN THNX FOR BEING SO FAIR ND HUMBLE.AND YA CAN I CONTACT YOU ON YOUR PERSONAL ID?IF U DNT MIND ND IF IT IS POSSIBLE.IF IT IS NOT ALLOWW HERE,ITS ALRIGHT.
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Posted on:11th Apr 2011, 4:06pm
Depression.
Dear sister,
Thanks again for your compliments.
I don’t think that sharing of the IDs is allowed on this forum, so I can’t do that.
Coming back to your questions, external masturbation ( without inserting anything up the vagina) would not physically harm your reproductive organs. Also, the pain associated with uterus contractions is normal, and will not cause you any harm. Regarding depression, when we are depressed we tend to start having negative thoughts about ourselves( feeling inferior), about our future( fearing that something bad like a disease will happen to us), and about our present condition. The solution for these problems requires that we closely monitor our negative thoughts and try to challenge our negative thoughts and replace them with positive thoughts. However, this may not be as easy as it may sound. One thing that may help you is to go to a good bookstore and find a book about self help for depression. I don’t live in Pakistan so I don’t know which ones are available there, but the bookstore may help you in finding a good one. Another option would be if you have any relatives living abroad, you may ask them to send you a self help book about depression. Again, I really hope and wish that you feel better, and that you will be able to overcome your negative thoughts and depression.
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