Londi In Islam- Slavery And Slave Girls In Islam

Aksar net per chat k doran non muslims chand aisay sawlat kertay hain jin ka baray mein mery maloomat bohat kum hain mein chahtah hoon keh woo chand swalat app say poachoon takeh meri maloomat mein izafa hosakay:-

1-Islam mein "LONDI/KANEEZ" ka taswar kia hai? Kia abb bhee islam mein londi ka taswar hai? Agar yea concept khattam hogia hai tou yea kiss nay kia? Kia yea sach hai keh Non Muslims kehtay hain keh humaray peyyaray Nabi kasrat izdawaj k sath sath oan ki aik londi bhee thi?

2-Humaray Peyyaray Aaqa Hazoor sallaho wahlahee wasalm ki zeada shadihoon kay peechay kia hikmat thi?

3-Oar app ki shadi jab Hazrat Amman Ayesha Razialloh tahalah say hohee tou kia Hazrat Ayesha ki umer sirf 6-8 saal thi...oar agar thi tou iss nabalighi ki shadi k peechay kia hikmat posheda thi.....oar kia aisi rawahitain bhee bhee milti hain keh oan ki umer zeada thi? Kia Islam abb bhee nabaligh larki say shadi ki ijazat daita hai?

4-Yahoodi kehtay hain keh Tumhari kitab mein hee likha hai keh Hazrat Moosa allai islam nay oas waqat kay baray baray jadogaroon say  kiss tarah moqabilah kia oar oan ko ebrat naak shikkasat di oar Hazrat moosa ko kuch na hoa magar Woo kehtay hain jab Tumhara Nabi jiss ko tum sab say afzal Nabi mantay hoo jab oan per arab ki ooratoon nay jadoo kia tou app ki tabihat kharab hogahee yehni jadoo nay apna asar kia .......Jadoo nay apna asar q kia ?

Yea sawalat sun ker ghusa ajata hai magar ghussay say kam naheen banta...oar shahid ghusa ilm ki kumi say hee aata hai....oar agar app ko in jawabat ka ilm hai tou plz plz plz meray ilm mein izafa karain ...mein app ka bohat mamnoon honga.........

love bird bhai salaam

Islam mein "LONDI/KANEEZ" ka taswar kia hai?\

ans.islam me londi/kaneez ka tasawwer ye hy k phele k wqtt me ap apne liye jo female khidmat k liye khareedte the wo kaneez khalati thi wo b hameesha hameesha k liye or apko uss kaneez k sat mubashirat ka b huqe hasil tah pr agr mubashirat se aulaad ho jay to abb wo apke bacho ki maa or apki bv bn gyy hy or ab uske hooque bv wale hogaye hen jese bv wese wo.

 Kia abb bhee islam mein londi ka taswar hai?

ans.g han ab b hy pr aam ny hy bare bare aameeroun k ab b loundiyaan he or wo unse faida b outahte hen pr aisa dekhne or sunne me ny aata.

 Agar yea concept khattam hogia hai tou yea kiss nay kia?

ans.ye concept khatam ny howa hy balake khud baa khud khatam ho chuka hy jese k agr abb bi koi loundi banne ko tayyar hy to waseem08 uss khoob surat or baa hunr loundi ko 500000RS me khreedne k liye tyaar hy ab ap batao koi banne ko tayyar hy shayad ny to iss tarah ye khud ba khud khatam ho gayaa hy.

 Kia yea sach hai keh Non Muslims kehtay hain keh humaray peyyaray Nabi kasrat izdawaj k sath sath oan ki aik londi bhee thi?

ans.g han pr iss me pouchne ki kia baat hy. 

2-Humaray Peyyaray Aaqa Hazoor sallaho wahlahee wasalm ki zeada shadihoon kay peechay kia hikmat thi?

ans.ye to ALLAH AAZZAWAJAL hi behtr janta hy pr ye hamare hozoor(sallalhoalyhiwasllam)ka khasaa hy.

3-Oar app ki shadi jab Hazrat Amman Ayesha Razialloh tahalah say hohee tou kia Hazrat Ayesha ki umer sirf 6-8 saal thi...

ans.g ny ye ghalat hy ap(radiyallahoanhaa)ki umer shareefa 09 saal ki thi.

oar agar thi tou iss nabalighi ki shadi k peechay kia hikmat posheda thi.....

ans.pheli baat to ap ki umer 09 saal ki thi or 09 saal baligh larki ki umer ho sakti hy to apki jb shadi hoi to ap baligha thi naa baligh hrgzz ny thi.

oar kia aisi rawahitain bhee bhee milti hain keh oan ki umer zeada thi?

ans.kuch rawayeten hen jisme 12 saal hy or kuch rawayeten hen jisme 09 saal hy pr 09 saal wali rawayten zyada sai hy.

 Kia Islam abb bhee nabaligh larki say shadi ki ijazat daita hai?

ans.abb bhi se kia mutlub hy islaam me hr hukum phele se hi hy or wohi hy ussme koi tabdeeli ny hy ye or baat hy k fiqq masail me quraan,aahadees se ekhtalaaf hy jo k bilkul sai hy or rahi baat nabaligh ki shadi/nikahh ki to islaam me nabaligh ki shadi yani nikah bilkul ho sakta hy pr unki wali ki ejazat k sat iss me koi aaeb ki bat ny hy.

4-Yahoodi kehtay hain keh Tumhari kitab mein hee likha hai keh Hazrat Moosa allai islam nay oas waqat kay baray baray jadogaroon say  kiss tarah moqabilah kia oar oan ko ebrat naak shikkasat di oar Hazrat moosa ko kuch na hoa magar Woo kehtay hain jab Tumhara Nabi jiss ko tum sab say afzal Nabi mantay hoo jab oan per arab ki ooratoon nay jadoo kia tou app ki tabihat kharab hogahee yehni jadoo nay apna asar kia .......Jadoo nay apna asar q kia ?

ans.acha to ap unse kahen k hzrt mosa(alyhissalam) ne ALLAH se zidd ki thi k wo allah ka dedaar krna chate hen q k hzrt mosa(alyhissalam)ALLAH se direct baat krne wale the to ALLAH  k samjhne pr b zidd krte rahe aakhir ALLAH ne iss hukum pr k ap koh=ee toor pr aajao wahin pr deedar hogaa to hzrt mosa(alyhissalam)kohee toor pr gayee or ALLAH  ne apna deedar karaya pr ek soi k nook se b km hissa noor ka deedar krne prhzrt mosa(alyhissalam)behoosh hogay or 03 din tak behoosh hi rahe or ek hamare pyare aaqa makki madine wale sarkaar rahmate aalamiyaan mehboobe rubbulezzat hum gareebo k madad gaar sahibe paseena khushbodaar noore mujassam noor aala noor ko ALLAH TABARAKWATALLA ne miraaj ki raat baazate ap(sallalhoalyhiwasllam)ko apne jisam aatar k sat ap(sallalhoalyhiwasllam)ki sir ki aankho se pora deedar karaya or wo jagah jahan hzrt jibrayeel(alyhissalam)ne jane se mana krdia ye khe kr k agr ab me aagye gaya to mere pr jasl jaygen to ap b unse ye khe sakten hen k jadoo to kheir bhut hikmat ki baat hy k wo ummat ko batane k liye hy pr yahaan bazaate jo deedar horaha hy jiski ek trf zidd hzrt mosa9alyhissalam)kr rahe hen OR allah mana krraha hy k ye tumhare bsds ki bat ny hy to subhannalah dosri trff ALLAH khud aaqa(salllahoalyhiwasllam)ko khud dawate deedar k liye bolaraha hy subhannalh aazawajal ap k paas un yahoodioyou ko moun haat pair sb kuch toor kr dene wala jwab abb aagaya hy.

Waseem08

Aap kay londies walay reply parh ker mein hairat ki shadeed gehrahoon mein doob gia hoon oar kahee sawalat zehn mein arahay hain app yeah kehtay keh yea system kissi bhee fard nay kattam naheen kia balkeh yea facility abb asani say available naheen warna app bhee iss say mostafeed zaroor hotay......

Agar kohee bazari ourat/loose character  kissi mard k pass aahay oar kahay keh tum mujjay kharid lo oar woo oas ko kharid lay apnay sath rukhay oas kay sath mobashrat karay oar phir kuch din baad azad ker day !!!!!!!!

Tou kia Onhoon nay Zanna jaisa kabhee fahil ka gunnah naheen millay ga????

meray khial mein aisa naheen hai aisay tou society mein corruption aik darwaza ghul jahay ga.....

Islam mai londi ka tasawar

agr abb bi koi loundi banne ko tayyar hy to waseem08 uss khoob surat or baa hunr loundi ko 500000RS me khreedne k liye tyaar hy

waseem08: kia aap bata sakte hai keh khawateen apni marzi se londi banti hai ya onhai zabardasti londi banaya jaata hai? meri maloomat ke mutabiq kisi londi ko os ki marzi ke khilaf londi banaya jaata hai. maslan jangi qaidi ki soorat mai, ya kisi ameer aadmi se os ki londi khareed ker. koi khatoon apni marzi se londi nahi banti balkeh ose zabardasti banaya jaata hai.

aap yeh 500000 RS kise de ge, os londi ko ya os ke malik ko. aur os khareedi huyee londi se kia aap beghair nikah mubashrat bhi kare ge? aur agar koi 600000 RS mai aap se khareedna chahe tu kia aap aik lakh munafa rakh ker ose kisi aur ke haath farokht ker de ge.

mai ne suna hai keh kuch insani smugler khawateen ki khareed farokht kerte hai, kia on logo se aurat khareed ker ose londi banaya jaa sakta hai, aur os londi se beghair nikah mubasrat ki jaa sakti hai?

My Opinion: agar sahi jawab nahi aata ho tu behatar hai ke khamoshi ikhtiar ker leni chahiye na keh ghalat jawab de ker mazeed confuse kerne ki koshish ki jaaye.

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ap k suwaal bot imp hen so tufseel sy ap k suwalo ka juwaab meh donga .

Nubi pak ki first ny 25 years apni first wife mother of momneen amaa huzrat khodija k sath gozary or ap  k wisaal k bhad dosri shadi pher ki or es k bahd jitni shadiyaa ap ny ki on meh koi na koi hikmat thi or wo Allah k hukam sy on ki ruza sy hoi ku k ksi na kisi shadi meh koi taleem thi kuch btana ta ksi rusam ka khatima ta or on ki kusrat zuwaaj on k leye khass ta baki islam meh 3 or ziyada sy ziyada 4 shadioo ki ejazat hy wo b tub jub istataahaat ho or wife ki permission b ho .

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Well effort ......Thanks

 or es k bahd jitni shadiyaa ap ny ki on meh koi na koi hikmat thi or wo Allah k hukam sy on ki ruza sy hoi ku k ksi na kisi shadi meh koi taleem thi kuch btana ta ksi rusam ka khatima ta.

Sahee farmayea app nay , mein nay yea points note ker lia hai baqi sawaloon per bhee tabh azmahee karain mein app kay oar dosray ail e ilm dostoon kreplies ka montazir rahoon ga .....

Kali Zuban

Aap ka bhee shukeria londia /kaneez walah maslah tou oar kharab hogia hai oas per abb app ka sawalat......

rE:

Us zamane main aurtein bazaar main khareed-o-faroqt hua kartin thin.Londi khareedna jaiz hai unhein khreeda jata tha un k malik se raqam dekar bazaar se or phir wo londian apne master ki har baat manti thin.londi khana paka kar desakti hai,kapre dhosakti hai or mubasharat bhi karsakti hai jo k zina nahi hai agar bache hojain londi se bina nikkah k to wo jaiz kehlaye jate hain,shadi bhi karsaktein hain londi se or riha bhi karsaktein hain,nikkah karna farz nahi hota londi se(choice hai individually).

Jang k doran or baad main jo aurton ko pakra jata tha unko bhi londian bna lia jata tha or riha bhi kiya jasakta tha,choice thi.

mai ne suna hai keh kuch insani smugler khawateen ki khareed farokht kerte hai, kia on logo se aurat khareed ker ose londi banaya jaa sakta hai, aur os londi se beghair nikah mubasrat ki jaa sakti hai?

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Par londi k bhi ALLAH ne kuch huqooq bta diya hain un main se kuch ye hain k ap jo khaein wo hi ap londi ko khilayein,londi ap k barabar main baith kar khasakti hai,ap jaisa pehnein waise hi pehnain.

Meri jitni is topic main knowledge hai main ne share kardi ye to matric main bhi briefly btaya gaya tha islamiat main.

kia mojooda dour mai londi jaiz hai?

Ji han sahi sunna hai smugglers se londi kharidsakte hain or us se mubasharat bhi karsakte hain jo k zina nahi hai.Slavery system or one night stand main farq hai.

smugglers khawateen ko aghwa ker ke bechte hai, yeh ghair qanooni harkat hai. ham aise ghair qanooni harkat ko kis tarah jaiz keh sakte hai? aik ghair qanooni harkat islam mai kis tarah jayez ho sakti hai.

isi tarah kuch ghareeb aurtain kisi ameer aadmi ki rakhel ban ker bhi rehti hai, woh nikah ke beghair jinsi taluqat bhi rakhti hai. kia yeh bhi jaiz hai? agar aghwa ki huyee aurto ko khareed ker londi banaya jaa sakta hai tu iss se kahi behtar hai keh kisi ghareeb aurat ko rakhel rakh lia jaaye.

lekin aghwa ki huyee khawateen ko khareedna aur os se jinsi taluqat rakhna ya kisi ghareeb aurat ko rakhel rakhna ghair qanooni aur gunah hai. mulki aur Islamic qanoon iss ki ijazat nahi deta.

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lovebird bhai:

Aap kay londies walay reply parh ker mein hairat ki shadeed gehrahoon mein doob gia hoon oar kahee sawalat zehn mein arahay hain app yeah kehtay keh yea system kissi bhee fard nay kattam naheen kia balkeh yea facility abb asani say available naheen warna app bhee iss say mostafeed zaroor hotay......

ans.g han iss me kia burai hy islaam me ye jaiz hy kia apne quraan me loundio k bare me ny prha.

Agar kohee bazari ourat/loose character  kissi mard k pass aahay oar kahay keh tum mujjay kharid lo oar woo oas ko kharid lay apnay sath rukhay oas kay sath mobashrat karay oar phir kuch din baad azad ker day !!!!!!!!

ans.ap q bacho wali baat krrahe ho bhai mere koi aurat kese loundi banna pasand karegii or q apne apko bachegii aisa ny hy.

Tou kia Onhoon nay Zanna jaisa kabhee fahil ka gunnah naheen millay ga????

ans.arey bhai pheli baat k agr kisi ne koi aurat ko usko qemat dekr khareeda to wo loundi hi ny q k loundi wo hi hy jo kisi se khareedi jay ab agr kisi ne aisi hamakat kii to yaqeenan unhone haraam fail kia iss me koi shak ny hy.

meray khial mein aisa naheen hai aisay tou society mein corruption aik darwaza ghul jahay ga.....

ans.g han ye sai hy waqayee aisa ny hy.

kali zubaan:

waseem08: kia aap bata sakte hai keh khawateen apni marzi se londi banti hai ya onhai zabardasti londi banaya jaata hai?

ans.g kuch apni mrzi se b bnti hy or kuch ko zaberdasti b banaya jata hy jese k jang me jo pakri gyee unhen banana wagira.

 meri maloomat ke mutabiq kisi londi ko os ki marzi ke khilaf londi banaya jaata hai.

ans.g ny aisa ny hy loundi zaberdasti wali to wo hi hy jo jang me pakri jay bs wese loundi apni mrzi se b bnti thi or kia pata banti ho.

 maslan jangi qaidi ki soorat mai,

ans.g han bilkul sai.

 ya kisi ameer aadmi se os ki londi khareed ker.

ans.g han bilkul sai hy.

 koi khatoon apni marzi se londi nahi banti balkeh ose zabardasti banaya jaata hai.

ans.ap aurat ho iss liye aisa kherahi ho pr aisa ny hy jesa k waseem08 ne phele b bataya hy k kuch apni mrzi se b bnti thi or kuch ko zaberdasti banaya jata tha jesa k jang me pakri jane wali or ghulaam b to hy to kia ghulaam b apni mrzi se ny bante the pr unka b ye hy k kuch apni mrzi se bnte the or kuch ko jang k wqtt me zaberdasti banaya jata tha or ghulaamu me to khandan b chalta tha k khandani ghulaam chata k jo ghulaam hy uska beta b ghulaam ho.

aap yeh 500000 RS kise de ge, os londi ko ya os ke malik ko.

ans.ye bacho wala swal hy usse kese de sakta hon yaqeenan uske malik ko hi dongaa.

 aur os khareedi huyee londi se kia aap beghair nikah mubashrat bhi kare ge?

ans.ye b ek bacho wala swal hy kia apko ny pata laghta to yehi hy k apko ny pata q k apke swal se andaza ho gaya hy k apko iss masle pr kuch maloom ny hy meri pyari bhan sex k elawa b or kitaboo pr wqtt dia karo q k apke sex wale article prh kr to bhut sudher gay agr ap or deeni kitaboo pr b wqtt dongi to yaqeenan bhut ache se jwab de sakti ho or iss se ourou ko khas kr iss site walon ko bhut faida hogaa rahi baat apke bacho wale swal ki to khareedi hoi lound apki milk hy uss me nikah ki zaroorat ny hy nikah hurr(azaad aurat)se kia jata hy.

 aur agar koi 600000 RS mai aap se khareedna chahe tu kia aap aik lakh munafa rakh ker ose kisi aur ke haath farokht ker de ge.

ans.agr abb loudi system hota to isme kia muzahiqa hy wo apki milk hy ap usse farokht kr sakte ho pr jisse apne mubashirat ki ho usse farokt ny kia ja sakta uske huque b bv jese ho jate hen jisse ap srf khidmat le rahe ho srf usse faroukht kia ja sakta hy.

mai ne suna hai keh kuch insani smugler khawateen ki khareed farokht kerte hai, kia on logo se aurat khareed ker ose londi banaya jaa sakta hai,

ans.phr wohi bacho wala swal ALLAH meri toba toba iss kali zubaan ko aaqal de AAMEEN aaj k door me loundi system ny hy or ap jinki baat krrahe ho wo zalim hy unhen sazae dani chahiye.

 aur os londi se beghair nikah mubasrat ki jaa sakti hai?

ans.ALLAH MERI TOBA arey bhan kia ho gaya hy apko pheli baat to wo loundi ny dosri baat uuse bageir nikaah mubashirat ny ki ja sakti.

My Opinion: agar sahi jawab nahi aata ho tu behatar hai ke khamoshi ikhtiar ker leni chahiye na keh ghalat jawab de ker mazeed confuse kerne ki koshish ki jaaye.

ans.agr apko waseem08 k jwabaat ghalat laghte hen to ap baray maharbani sai jwabaat enayat frma kr shukriya ka moqa aata karen.wese apse aesi umeed ny thi. 

smugglers khawateen ko aghwa ker ke bechte hai, yeh ghair qanooni harkat hai. ham aise ghair qanooni harkat ko kis tarah jaiz keh sakte hai? aik ghair qanooni harkat islam mai kis tarah jayez ho sakti hai.

ans. g han ye sai frmarahi hen ap.

isi tarah kuch ghareeb aurtain kisi ameer aadmi ki rakhel ban ker bhi rehti hai, woh nikah ke beghair jinsi taluqat bhi rakhti hai. kia yeh bhi jaiz hai?

ans.kis tarah phele ye bataye or jo apne pocha hy wo jaiz to ek trf bhut sakht haraam hy.

 agar aghwa ki huyee aurto ko khareed ker londi banaya jaa sakta hai tu iss se kahi behtar hai keh kisi ghareeb aurat ko rakhel rakh lia jaaye.

ans.my god laghta hy k ap emotion ho gy ho jb aghwa ki gy ko loundi hrgz ny banaya jasakta hy to kisi ghareeb aurat ko kese naozobillah rakhel banaya jay.

lekin aghwa ki huyee khawateen ko khareedna aur os se jinsi taluqat rakhna ya kisi ghareeb aurat ko rakhel rakhna ghair qanooni aur gunah hai.

ans.g han bilkul sai hy.

 mulki aur Islamic qanoon iss ki ijazat nahi deta.

ans.g han bikul say hy.

azfer91:

Ji han sahi sunna hai smugglers se londi kharidsakte hain or us se mubasharat bhi karsakte hain jo k zina nahi hai.Slavery system or one night stand main farq hai.

ans.bhai jaan ye kis ne khediya hy apko yaar khuda ka khoof  karo smuggler jin khwateen ko agwa kr k bechte hy wo hurr(azaad aurat) hy or ye jurm or islaam k khilaaf  hy ose kese khreedo gay ye haraam hy or us k sat mubashirat zina hi hy k wo apki nato koi lounde/kaneez hy or nahi apki bv.

islamic concept of laundism

islamic concept of launDism     

PS: also read last reply of page-2 of above link

2 qism ki aurtaiN

islamic poit of view say dunya main 2 qism ki aurtain hain... aik "mohsenaat" aur doosri "ghair-mohsenaat"...... pahli qism ki auratain aam shareef family wali aurtaiN haiN...... doosri gharir-shareef jo "public-property" hoti haiN jinhaiN tawaif, prostitutes, call girs, sex workers etc etc kaha jataa hai.

yeh doosri qism ki aurtaiN already "appnay aap" ko yaa to khud bech rahi hoti haiN yaa onkay dallal /maalikaan / bad.kaari k aDDouN k maalikaan onki marzi say yaa onki marzi k khilaaf onhaiN bech kar daulat jamaa kartay haiN..... aj yeh "tejarat" pakistan samait dunyaa bhar maiN....... haqooqay-niswaan k so called champions usa /europe maiN bhi zor o shor say legally chal raha hai....... in addouN par aurtain aghwaa karkay hi supply ki jati haiN... chand kharaab khawateen khud bhi apni khushi say aissaa karti haiN...

Islamic basically ... aurat k 'public property' honay ... ka mokhalif hai. islam kahta hai k yeh niswaaniyat ki tauheen aur aurat par zulm hai k aik aurat bayak waqt bahoot say mardouN k zeray tasallut rahay aur har raat alag alag mard k saath basar karay....... yahaaN medical experts bahoot haiN jo yeh jaantay hain k aisaa karnay say aurat ki jismaani, zehni aur nafseyaati sehat pay ketnaa boraa asar parta hai... phir yeh aik samaji boraayee bhi hai jiss say samaj k naujwaan larkay hi nahi balkay married mard bhi bori tarah effected hotay hain... ghar k ghar tabaah hotay hain....

dunyaa ka koi daur aisaa nahi rahaa (nah hogaa) jab aisee aurtouN say dunyaa khali hojaa.ay........ to inn aurtoun ka kia ho... inhaiN iss zillat say kaisay nikalaa jaa..ay... koi shareef mard to inhaiN apni BIWI banaanay par razi nahi hotaa......... ISLAM aisee khawateen ka yeh hull nikaalta hai k yeh to alreadu "public-property" haiN... inhaiN already pakaR ka becha jachukaa hai aur insay mosalsal kamaaye bhi log kar rahay haiN......... aik islamic society main aisee aurtoun k asmat faroshi k business ka koi concept nahi...... phir yeh aurtain,,, jo muslim bhi hoti haiN aur apna yeh pesha choRna bhi chaahti haiN, woh kahaaN jayaiN......... islam kahta hai k saahibay sarwat log inhaiN khareed kar apnay haram maiN as launDi rakh laiN

launDi, biwi k martabah par to nahi hoti magar ossay deger tamaam haqooq hasil hotay hain. woh sirf aik mard k pass rahti hai. oska naan.nufqah, oskay maalik k zimmah hota hai like biwi...oski aulaad malik ki legal aulaad hoti hai aur biwi ki aulaad aur launDi ki aulaad maIn koi faraq nahi hotaa dounouN ko meeraas milti hai. kissi ka darjah bhi kam nahi hotaa... islam main ghulaam au launDiyouN k jo haqooq haiN onko study karaiN to hairaani hoti hai.

islam aikazaad ko pakaR kar ghulaam bananay ka mokhaalif hai. yeh bahoot baRa gonaah hai... sirf jang maiN pakRee gayee aurtaiN hi launDi banaaye jasakti haiN k doosri taraf kuffar bhi muslim khawateen ko pakaR kar onhaiN maaN-bahan banaa kar nahi rakhtay...

agar pak yaa muslim society maiN asmat faroshi k aDDouN par maujood tamaam "ghair-mohsenaat" ko yeh doosra option dia jaa.ay k kia woh badastoor "public-property" banaa rahna chaahti hain yaa kissi saahibay hasiyat mulim ki launDi ban kar onkay haram main rahna pasand karengi jahaaN onhaiN tamaam bunyaadi haqooq milengay, jahaaN onki aulaad ko qanooni hasiyat milegi. jahaan onhaiN wohi khelaya pilaya pahnaya jayegaa jo onka maalik khataa peeta aur pahanta hai (as per islam)... albattah woh maalik ki biwi k darjah k barabar nahi hogi yaani mankooha nahi hogi balkay onka status laundi ka hogaa to .............. zara insaaf say batlaaiyyeh k kaun aisee "bazaari aurat" hogi jo yeh option ko qabool nah karegi.

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aik say zeyadah shaadiyaaN

1. aik say zeyadah shadiyaaN sirf hamaray piyaray nabi sallaho alaihay wasallam nay hi nahi ki theeN balkay beshtar ambayaa karaam AS nay kai kai shadiyaan ki theeN... hazrat suleman AS nay to aik rewayat k motaabiq 100 say bhi zeyadah shadiyaaN ki thee... dunyaa k deger raaj maha rajaa, roohaani peshwaa nay bhi bahoot see shadiyaan ki theeN... zara tareekh say data collect karaiN aur phir dekhain k hamaray piyaray Nabi HI nay zeyadah shadiyaaN ki theeN ????

waisay aik nabi ki zeyadah shadiyoun ki HIKMAT yeh hoti hai k woh mardouN k elawah aurtouN ka bhi Nabi hota hai... lekin woh aik mard honay k naatay aam aurtouN say zeyadah ghul mil nahi saktaa aur bahoot say niswaani issues par direct hedayaat nahi day saktaa... nabi ki zeyadah biwiyaaN onki "private secretary" k taur par bhi kaam karti hain aur nabi say direct hedayaat lay aurtoun ko direct pahonchayaa karti theeN

2. laRkiyouN ki kam omri maiN nah sirf nikaah jaaiz hai balkay rukhsati aur onsay mobaasherat bhi....... lekin naa.baaligh laRki ki shadi oskay wali ki ijazat k beghair nahi hosakti.......... quran maiN wazah taur par aisee laRki ki iddat ka ta.ayyun ki gaya hai, jiski maah.waari start nah howi ho yaani woh naa.baaligh ho.... aur iddat ossi mankooha ki hoti hai, jiski rukhsati hochuki hai... agar kissi mankooha ki rukhsati nah howi ho to aisee bewah /mutleqah ki koi iddat nahi hoti.

(PS: above sharayee masaail "sawaday aazam" k motaabiq hai yaani jin par muslim ummat ki aksariyat muttafiq hai....... 'aqliati firqouN' maiN iss say ikhtelaaf hosakta hai. lehaza aisay firqouN say talluq rakhnay walay in masaail ko sun kar 'pareeeshan' nah houN woh apnay apnay )maktabay fikar k motaabiq amal karaiN. 

londi aur tawaif mai farq

agree with my rizvi.

khaandani tawaif sirf raqs o moseeqi ka kaam kerti hai, jism faroshi nahi. yeh khawateen generally dashta yani long term relationship pasand kerti hai.

ref book: Heera Mandi Ki Dar Parda Saqafat by Fauzia Saeed

iss ka matlab yeh hua keh mulk se jism faroshi khatam karna ho tu tamam sahib-e-haisiat logo ko chahiye keh woh kam az kam aik dashta/rakhel (londi) rakhe. lekin saath saath yeh bhi zehan mai rahe keh os dashta/rakhel ko londi ka poora poora haqooq de aur os ke bachche ko apna bachcha tasleem kare.

waise mera zati khayal bhi yahi hai keh sahib-e-haisiat log jo chup chup kar multiple khawateen se relationship rakhte hai aur on ki aulad ko bhi apni aulad tasleem nahi kerte jis ki wajah se on ki betio ko bhi tawaif banna perta hai, woh sahib-e-haisiat log agar elania aik ya do khawateen ko dashta/rakhel (londi) bana le aur on ko londi jaisa haqooq de tu phir mulk se jism faroshi khatam ho jaaye gi. aur in khawateen ki betio ko bhi tawaif nahi banna pare ga.

pehle zamane mai sahib-e-haisiat log apne haram mai fakharya iss qisim ki khawateen ko rakhte the aur on ke haqooq bhi ada kerte the, yahi wajah hai keh aik makhsoos city se taluq rakhne wale logo ki bahot bari taadad fakharya batate hai keh woh nawab ki aulad mai se hai. pehle samajh nahi aata tha keh etne saare nawab ke aulad kaise ho gaye, lekin ab yeh baat clear huye keh woh kis tarah nawab ki aulad huye. sab se bari baat yeh hai keh nawab ne onhai apni aulad tasleem kia tab hi tu yeh log apne aap ko nawab ki aulad tasleem kerte hai.

kaash hamare yaha bhi aisa hota. Heera mandi union ke se taluq rakhne wale aik fard ne aik interview mai kaha tha keh Heera Mandi mai shorfa ki betia rahti hai, os ka yeh bhi dawa tha keh woh har larki ke baare mai bata sakta hai keh kon kis Shorfa ki beti hai. dar asal yeh sab khandani tawaif ki betia hai jo keh kisi na kisi sahib-e-haisiat shakhs ki dashta/rakhel ban ker rahi hai. lekin os sahib-e-haisiat shakhs ne in khawateen ko londi ke haqooq nahi diye, jis ki bina per jab woh boorhi ho gayee tu onhai dobara dar badar ki thokarain khane ke liye chor dia, aur onho ne rozi kamane ke liye apni beti (jo keh shorfa ki beti hai) ko bhi isi dhanda mai shamil ker lia.

agar in khawateen ko bhi londi jaise haqooq diye jaate tu yeh khawateen burhape mai dar badar ki thokarai nahi khati, aur in ki betia bhi apne baap (Shorfa) ke naam se pehchani jaati aur onhai bhi tawaif banna nahi perta.

love bird aap ne bahut hi achcha topic start kia hai, iss topic se londi se mutaliq bahut si confusion door ho jaaye gi. myrizvi ki tafseeli dalail ke baad andaza hua keh waseem08 ki baat bhi apni jagah sahi thi.

Note: mera khayal hai keh iss thread ko sirf Londi wale issue tak mahdood rakha jaaye aur baqia issue ke liye alag topic start kia jaaye. yeh zimmadari love bird ko hi di jaati hai keh iss thread ko munasib andaz se edit/delete ker ke sirf Londi wale issue tak mahdood ker de. aur doosre sawalat ke liye new thread start kare. meri taraf se love bird ko ijazat hai keh mere replies ko bhi jaha se chahe edit/delete ker de. Londi ka issue bahut aham hai, iss ka jawab tamam musalmano ko aana chahiye. agar jawab nahi aaye ga tu phir musalmano ko non-muslim ke saamne lajawab hona pare ga.

well said KZ

agar hum issi tarah openly har islamic hukm ko discuss karaiN to oskay fawaid /wajooh samajh saktya haiN... bah shartekay "ghairouN" k propaganDay ka shikaar hokar apnay deen ki batlaaye howi kissi bhi baat par shamindah houN yaa zabardasti ki taweelaat karaiN...

1. "officially" to indo o pak ki har koThay wali tawaaif, koThay par sirf aur sirf "naachnay-gaanay" ka dhandah karti haiN. lekin "andaroonay khana" sab kuch chaltaa hai. bus 'party' maal.daar honi chahiyeh. (daashtah /rakhail banaanay k liyeh to bahoot baRi party darkaar hoti hai) ... ilawaz azee jab say movies /tv channels main "shareef-zaadiyouN" nay naachnay gaanay ka "dhandah" ghar ghar start kardia hai... tab say koThay par sirf naachnay-gaanay ka dhandah bahoot mandah hogaya hai. aur 'doosra dhanadh' orroj par pahonch gaya hai

2.above mentioned book samait pakistani press (media nahi) main bahoot kuch chapta rahaa hai... pakistan k bahoot say nomaayaaN shorfaa (bilkhasoos hukmraan shorfaa) ka talluq heera mandi ki saqafat sya raha hai aur agar tawaif.zaadiyouN ka DNA test ki matching hamari ruling class k 'shorfaa' say kia jaa.ay to ... al amaan o al hafeez...

bay.shak islam aik deenay fitrat hai jo har qism k issues ka nisbatan behtar solution pesh karta hai... naam refernce yaad nahi rahaa lekin 'launDi say related' aik lateefah nomaa waqe'aa sun lijyeh. aik  maroof buzrug ka aik beta 'launDi-zadah' thaa. jab beta jawaan howaa to kissi baat par baap say bat.tameezi kar baiTha... baap nay tanzan kahaa... ho naa lauNdi ki aulaad... betay nay kahaa... meri maaN ko kuch nah kahaiN... woh kam say kam ap say to zeyadah aqalmand aur behtar hain... baap nay hairat say poochaa...bhalaa woh kaisay ... jawaab milaa...meri maaN nay apni aulaad k liyeh ap jaisay najeeb-ut-tarfain khaandaani aur Allah walay mard ko chonaa... jabkay aap nay apni aulaad k liyeh aik launDi ko chonaa :))

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Note: mera khayal hai keh iss thread ko sirf Londi wale issue tak mahdood rakha jaaye aur baqia issue ke liye alag topic start kia jaaye. yeh zimmadari love bird ko hi di jaati hai keh iss thread ko munasib andaz se edit/delete ker ke sirf Londi wale issue tak mahdood ker de. aur doosre sawalat ke liye new thread start kare. meri taraf se love bird ko ijazat hai keh mere replies ko bhi jaha se chahe edit/delete ker de. Londi ka issue bahut aham hai, iss ka jawab tamam musalmano ko aana chahiye. agar jawab nahi aaye ga tu phir musalmano ko non-muslim ke saamne lajawab hona pare ga.

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