Hangama |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 1:34am |
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Condoms: What Does Islam Says?
Assalamualaikum Aik post chal rahi hai -- Mai aik bat puchna chata hon, Ham jab apni life ka aik aham hissa shuru karna jarahai hotai hain aur ham har kam bilkul Islamic studies ka mutabiq kartain hain. Mera sawal yah hai ka kiya Condom use karna according to ISLAM allow hai yah nahi. Offcourse uswaqt condom to nahi thee laikin intercourse ka doran Semen ko wife ka ander jana sai rokna aur bahir nikaldaina allow hai yah nahi. Please sab apna comments zaror dain aur ISLAMIC point of view ka mutabiq dain.
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BeautyStar |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 7:28am |
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Condom is Allowable Well , Agar app First-Time Intercourse ki baat kar rahein hain tou mere suggestion yahi hai kah itne Precious Moments ko condom se kharab na karein kyun kah iss se sara tempo kharab ho saktah hai .
Condom as contarception , in the light of Islam it is allowable ... but kuch conditon aasey hain jab yah disallow kiya gaya hai e.g. Wife/Husband ko allergy hoo , ya phir Condom se app bacha nahi chahtey kyun kah app ko Poverty ka darr hai , etc. Under normal cases , it is allowed under the shower of Islamic Teachings .
Jahan taak anceint time ki baat hai ..... Jee bilkul uss waqt condom nahi thaa lekin loog hamarey Nabi (S.A.W) k dour ma Semen ko vagina se bahir ejaculate kartey thee aur yah baat APP (S.A.W) ko bhi pata thee lekin app ne iss per kuch nahi kaha tha sirf khamoshi ikhtiyaar karle thee ....... ... Lekin Ajj kal Ulma/Muftis (Islamic Scholars) yah wala method use karna sahi nahi samjha hai kyun kah iss se Wife satisfy nahi hotey hai .... Iss liyah unhoon ne Condoms aur dosrey method ko prefer kiya hia .
Lets see what others say ......... ?
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Bili_miau |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 8:32am |
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hmm i think condom is a reversible method of contraception..sometimes it good to avoide stds ...so i dnt think there r any objections in islam on condoms... |
Hangama |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 9:06am |
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Condom Beauty star: Ap na jo bat kahi hai
"Jee bilkul uss waqt condom nahi thaa lekin loog hamarey Nabi (S.A.W) k dour ma Semen ko vagina se bahir ejaculate kartey thee aur yah baat APP (S.A.W) ko bhi pata thee lekin app ne iss per kuch nahi kaha tha sirf khamoshi ikhtiyaar karle thee "
yar yah batain please ka yah bat kaha likhi hai means kis hadees mai yah kaha pa please uska reference dain.
Bili miau: please dont say that ka " i dont think" kisi hadess yah kisi ka fatwa batain. Bili mai na pahla bhi apko bohot bar kaha hai phir kah raha hon ka kuch batain aisi hotin hain jinka liya ham "think" ka word use nahi karsakta hai. please confirm karka batain. |
BeautyStar |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 9:39am |
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Re: Condom Various birth control techniques have been known since the dawn of time. Methods of contraception which are safe and do not affect the health of the mother are permissible.
During the time of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), the most commonly practiced method of birth control was 'azl or the withdrawal method. 'Azl is technically called coitus interruptus. According to the ulama (scholars), withdrawal is permissible but generally thought to be makruh (reprehensible), since it deprives the woman of her right to be able to have sexual satisfaction and to bear children if she so desires, so therefore the conclusion reached by most scholars is that withdrawal should not be practiced unless the woman agrees to it, in other words by mutual consultation. If repeated pregnancies have weakened the woman's body or becoming pregnant would threaten her life, such birth control may be construed as a necessity, and not makruh.
Some of Prophet's (pbuh) companions resorted to coitus interruptus, which was the only method of family planning known to them, and the Prophet was aware of what they did. He did not instruct them to stop, nor did he tell them that what they did was forbidden.
This information is avaiable on every recognised and reknown Islamic Websites ...... I have not found any hadees regarding this but I found it more or less on verey Islamic WebSites ................Edit..................... Moderator Note: Links Not Allowed |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 9:55am |
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Birth control is allowed. Birth control is allowed by azl/withdrawl as mentioned by Beautystar above. So whatever method you use is allowed short of abortion. Ulema have allowed abortion too in cases where the life of a mother is at stake.
Walla Alam bis sawab. |
nikama |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 12:16pm |
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so.... So whats the conclusion??? what should we do to avoid pregnancy.This is for me as well as I am also trying this but little confused about so many logic behind,I observe here...Whats the best for Family planning, condoms,tablets,outside,ejac, or any thing else..pls tell |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 1:30pm |
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Are you asking me ?
Nikamy, tum bilkul hee nikamay ho.
Use your brain man. You want answers to all your questions in detail and then you complain about lenghthy post by Bewaqoof.
The answer is there in my post any method is fine. Your and mine beloved holy prophet(SAW) allowed azl/withdrawl and there are so many sahih ahadees about it. Nobody asked him about any other method of birth control as there was none other available in those days. So these hadees allow birth control. Now which method should we use ? You can use any method short of abortion.
Since most "modern" methods of birth control have the same aim as the withdrawal method --- to frustrate the attempt of the sperm to fertilize the egg --- we can by analogy assume that modern birth control is also permissible.
Among the methods that work by preventing fertilization of the egg by the sperm are: the "Pill", IUD, diaphragm, condom, sponge, spermicides, and the rhythm method.
Of these the most questionable is the IUD (Intrauterine Device), since if a woman becomes pregnant while using this device, there is a higher likelihood that the pregnancy will occur outside the womb (ectopic) or be aborted during the second term. This method is best for women who have already had at least one child.
Once the embryo has formed then you cannot use any method to get rid of a human life taking shape in mothers womb. Now it is upto Allah whatever form or shape he gives to this embryo. Yes there is one exception in this case too as I mentioned above.
The concept of bida(innovation in deen) cannot be applied here as we are not inventing anything related to established shariat and sunnah of our beloved prophet (SAW).
There is another fine point some ulemah say azl is makruh (reprehensible), since it deprives the woman of her right to be able to have sexual satisfaction and to bear children if she so desires, so therefore the conclusion reached by most scholars is that withdrawal should not be practiced unless the woman agrees to it.
Wallah alim bis sawab. |
BeautyStar |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 1:37pm |
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Everything is Mentioned yaar I think BeautyStar & Seriously Sahab ne sab kuch mention tou kardiyah hai .... app reply tou pora read karein phir jo bhi app ki queries hoon woh pooechein ..... but I read the whole article and then ask couter-questions , ok .
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 1:46pm |
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Hangama key tasalee kay leeyah. Abu Dawood narrated that a man said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I have a slave woman and I engage in ‘azl with her, because I do not want her to get pregnant, but I want what men want. But the Jews say that ‘azl is a lesser form of infanticide.” He said, “The Jews are lying. If Allaah wants to create (a child) you cannot prevent that.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, Kitaab al-Nikaah, 1856; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 1903).
hadeeth of Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him): “We used to practise ‘azl at the time when the Qur’aan was being revealed” – i.e., at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). If that action had been haraam, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would have forbidden it. But the scholars say that one should not engage in ‘azl with a free woman except with her permission, because she has the right to have children. Moreover, withdrawing without her permission diminishes her pleasure, because the woman’s pleasure can only be completed after ejaculation. So not asking her permission causes her to lose out on pleasure and on the possibility of having children. Hence we state the condition that this may only be done with her permission. From Fataawa al-Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen. |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 2:34pm |
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we can use it I think there is't any restriction of using it in Islam. |
Bili_miau |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 2:44pm |
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hmm i strongly belive that before using these things couples should just agree between eachother..the rest is only by product!! |
nikama |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 3:56pm |
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best method So,whats the best method..i apprecaite all urs efforts here..but in short whats the best method to avoid prg...pills/condoms/outside ejac..pls do tell |
Bili_miau |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 4:59pm |
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i thnk for most ppl the condoms r the best mthods .as they r reversible and do nt effect the body with any drugs ...as other methods contain drugs...
however i think that only our grandmothers were used to think that if ppl use pills etc..their fertility rate will decrease..which is not true..shown by the new statistics..because new pills r introduced with different level of hormones...this is the reason women should consult a dr before taking them...
so now coming bak to ur point..i think if ur nt a typical guy u can ask ur wife to use mini pill..which is a better option...as condoms will avoide the pregnancy as well..but mostly men have the belief that they cant perform a good job or feel anything by using them!! |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 6:24pm |
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hmmm Ya,thanks billi jee,to share ur opinion with me.The reason was behind,I really dont know nothing about these things.my mr can use pillis..but I dont like to take any sort of medicines..what are these mini pilis???pls explain
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Hangama |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 11:52pm |
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Thanks for all Thanks for all those members who give his /her valuable suggestion. |
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 2:04am |
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dont use condom at first night! very very nice & informative replies by BeautyStar and Seriously..
par first night mai condom use nai karna chahiye.. |
BeautyStar |
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 7:38am |
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Muhammad Nadeem Muhammad Nadeem Bahi app is hawaley se kiya kahtey hain ..... In short hi bata dein .......
Please tell us what do you say in this regards ........ Thanks.
We are waiting for your comments too ok :)
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 1:14pm |
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Hangama fungamma There is no problem with usuing condoms or any type of sex control methods. I think sir seriously has elaborately discussed it, so no need to say anything. However, refering yr concern in an other mail, I was not aware of the fact that in Pkaistan u can not get non-latex condoms. I know the mentality of Pkis very well that they treat u very cheaply if u go to buy some thing like this. Anyways, I believe that condoms are not only allowed in Islam but are the best of best methods to avoid pregnancy, STD diseases, and best of all women's health is not on stake. Because whatever other thing women use, it has MEDICINE in it like pills specially. And PILLS are the worst to destroy a woman's health. Even when we see addvertisement on tv here about pills, they also tell u that how many side effects are related with it.
Hazrat Maulana Muhammad Nadeem Bhai:
AAP plz jaldi say aa-jain aur apnay COMMENTS say forum ko chaar chaand laga dain kayounkay yahan kisi ko aap ka bohat intizar hay aur uss ka khana aap ki opinion kay bagair hazam nahi ho raha hay.hehehheheheeeeee |
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 7:30pm |
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so.. so on conclusion, I can use condoms with mutual consent of ours..Not the pills as for me its very hard to do the job of outside ejac,I am very lazy man.. |
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