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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 12:24pm |
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Private Parts Of The Body: Are These Napak?
Forum main oral sex say related sawalat kay jawab main bohat say forum members ka kehna hay kay choon kay insan kay private parts napak hotay hain lihaza oral sex bhi manah hua. Mera kehna hay kay insaan kay private part napak nahi hotay. Agar yeh napak hotay to her namaz say pehlay aap ko wazoo karnay kay bajai ghusal karna parhta. Ya kum say kum apnay private parts ko bhi dhona perta. Likan quran main wazoo kay jo farayez batai gae hain un main private parts to dhonay kay kaheen zikir nahain hay. Haan main yeh manta hoon kay in private parts say nikalnay wali alaiesh napak hoti hain aur un say bachna chahiay. Un key napaki kay baray main to sub muslims ittafaq kartay hain. Woh agar kaproon par ya jism per lag jain to un ko saaf karnay ka hukum dia gia hay. Islam aik natural religion hay Islam ko pata hay kay agar her namaz say pehlay aap ko wazoo karna perh gia ya private parts ko bhee dona par gia to aik bohat bari museebat ghari ho jai gee. So the conclusion is that the private parts are not napak and you can use them for foreplay in any manner you want but the excretions from these parts are napak and you should be very carefull about them. Kia khial hay moulana Mnadeem ? Wallah Alim bis sawab.
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 12:49pm |
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Good.. Nice one...so can we do oral sex if we like ,what u think,whats the conclusion..??? |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 1:08pm |
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Seriously Seriously: if any one touch his private parts then only wazoo is required not ghussal but if any one suck or kiss any such parts like vagina, penis or anus all these parts ejaculate napak things then how can a muslim girl do this. If u are talking to kiss or suck breast of girl then there is no issue but if u are talking related mention parts then i think none of any muslim girl can do this.
Kindly mention any ahadee in which such mention parts mention to kiss. Dont give ahadees in which only foreplay is mention. |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 2:17pm |
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Aag--Yes you are right but : Aag,
Yes you are right about this hadees but:
There is only one hadith of this nature.
But there are so many ahadeesh which contradict this hadees.
According to those Ahadees ( and I am quoting only one below) Holy prophet (SAW) used water and used his hands to wash his private parts after relieving him of call of nature. How can you wash your private parts thoroughly without touching them ? The following Hadees also points to the fact that you should use your left hand to hold your penis while urinating and use your left hand to wash it afterwards. Again how can you wash it without touching it ?
Refer to Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 1
Hadees Number 156: Narrated Abu Qatada:
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The Prophet said, "Whenever anyone of you makes water he should not hold his penis or clean his private parts with his right hand. (And while drinking) one should not breathe in the drinking utensil ."
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 2:21pm |
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To Nikamma--Waqai tum nkammay ho. Sara kaam mujh say he karaow gay? Apna bheja bhee to use karo aur apna nateeja khud akhaz karo. Mufassal jawab kay leyah ziada paisay deenay hoon gay. Muft main to mufassal jawab nahi mil sakta. |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 2:29pm |
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hi.. Wo napak nahi hootay app ki agar koi bhi cheez napak hai to namaz nahi hooti..........simply, but using in any manner is much more ambigous. If u mean it with licking and sucking then I do't beleive in it. These are the new ways of moderate sex people have developed in search of more pleasure during ages. |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 2:47pm |
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NO ....... Its Paak yaar Insaan k sarey parts paak hain chahey woh private hoon ya non-private
....... Napak yah uss waqt hon gaey jab app nature call attend karein
gaey lekin jaisey hi app ne un ko 3 times wash karliyah woh paak ho
jatey hain .
Oral-Sex ka Islam ne kahein manah nahi kya hai ...... Pakistan ma tou
shayad yah achi nazroon se nahi dekha jatah lekin Western World ma yah
eak zaroorat hai .... Agar woh Oral-Sex nahi kartey hain tou Husband ko
erection nahi hota aur wife ka vagina wet nahi hota ...... So Mutual -
Consent se Oral Sex kiya ja sakta hai ........ Its not Napaak because
Muslims do intanjah after attending Nature's Call so its not the big
deal for Muslim ..... and they can do it with mutual understanding of
their partners
Oral-Sex agar as a Fore-Play use kiya jaey tou zayadah behtar bajaey
iss k kah yah as a Mutual - Masturbation use kiya jaey ....... Oral-Sex
ma agar partner dischare honey wala hoo tou uss ko chahiyah kah woh
apne partner ko communicate kardey takah woh apna face hata ley ...
kyun kah ho saktah hai kah jo content bahar ayein woh Napaak hoon jiss
ma Urine k contents bhi shamil ho saktey hain .
So , according to me Oral-Sex is fine .
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 3:46pm |
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acha ... acha beautystar,u are in favour of oral sex..who else..
and to seriously,yaar jee thora hee bata du,tafseel say na sahee..
little bit tell.and how much money more u looking,u are alreday in USA,i m poor man...maaf kero |
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Posted on:31st Dec 2007, 4:07pm |
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Re: Nikamma Frankly Speaking ............ I will vomit probably if I do that .
But Couples are agreed upon it then there is no issue / problem ... Couples can do it with mutual understanding.... No problem at all
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 12:39am |
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Beauty Please give the definition of ORAL Sex and what parts are included. |
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 8:24am |
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Oral - Sex Quite simple Definition is :
Oral Sex = Use of Mouth + Stimulation of Genitals
Mouth includes - Lips , Toungue & Teeth
Genitals includes - Penis & Testicles , Vagina & Clitoris
Oral-Sex can be done Before , During & After Sexual Intercourse.
For Muslims it does not matter
really because they wash their Genitals after attending Nature's Call
and maintain good Taharat-O-Pakizgee (Cleaness) ... The probablity of
of STD (Sexually Tranmitted Diseases) is very much low so they can do
it without any fear of Health Risk.
But For Non-Muslim it might be a problem .... so they should first become aware of STD Status of their Partner
Solution ----> Due to disease risks (STD) , many medical professionals advise the use of Condom or Dental Dams when performing or receiving oral sex with a partner whose STD status is unknown
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 8:24am |
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Oral - Sex Quite simple Definition is :
Oral Sex = Use of Mouth + Stimulation of Genitals
Mouth includes - Lips , Toungue & Teeth
Genitals includes - Penis & Testicles , Vagina & Clitoris
Oral-Sex can be done Before , During & After Sexual Intercourse.
For Muslims it does not matter
really because they wash their Genitals after attending Nature's Call
and maintain good Taharat-O-Pakizgee (Cleaness) ... The probablity of
of STD (Sexually Tranmitted Diseases) is very much low so they can do
it without any fear of Health Risk.
But For Non-Muslim it might be a problem .... so they should first become aware of STD Status of their Partner
Solution ----> Due to disease risks (STD) , many medical professionals advise the use of Condom or Dental Dams when performing or receiving oral sex with a partner whose STD status is unknown
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 8:25am |
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Muhammad Nadeem What do you think ....... Am I right or Wrong ???
Please correct me if I am wrong .... Waiting for your reply ???
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Posted on:1st Jan 2008, 11:49pm |
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Very Seriously Mr. Serious:
You asked me about my “ khial “ I am telling you my faith:
All my understanding of Islam teaches me about Mani and Mazi and the vaginal secretion of a woman as 100% PAAK(Neat)!
This is my own understanding after a lot study and much deliberation, and I don’t want to convince anybody in my favor.
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Posted on:2nd Jan 2008, 10:10am |
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Mnadeem When u are saying so, then also give yr reasoning behind that so evryone can understand yr point of view. U should not be worrying about CONVINCING others just give us the reason.
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Posted on:2nd Jan 2008, 10:41am |
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Dear Mnadeem more details please. As Pinky said please give your reasons and logic behind your thinking. As you know Islam emphasizes on delivering your message and giving arguments in your favor . Now it is upto the person who recieves the message and hears the arguments , if that person does not want to accept your message and agree to your arguments then as it is said in Quran "lakum deenakum wa leeya deen". |
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Posted on:2nd Jan 2008, 1:30pm |
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Semen is Pure ??? Can you please explain the logic behind it ?
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Posted on:3rd Jan 2008, 12:35am |
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Components of Oral Sex Dear BeautyStar:
I am giving my concept only on your request.
Oral Sex = Use of Mouth + Whole body of your partner (except anus).
Oral Sex is best before intercourse, better during intercourse, good for happy ending.
Just for the knowledge: It is proven by the scientist that all the mammal’s species do like the oral stimulation as foreplay before having sex.
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Posted on:3rd Jan 2008, 10:11am |
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Dear brother Mnadeem You said :
"All my understanding of Islam teaches me about Mani and Mazi and the vaginal secretion of a woman as 100% PAAK(Neat)!
This is my own understanding after a lot study and much deliberation, and I don’t want to convince anybody in my favor"
Please enlighten me about your comments. Your understanding is based on what Islamic principles ? I am a keen student of Islam and I am always on the lookout for fresh ideas about everyday issues in the light of Islamic Principles. What are you sources of your knowledge and beliefs ?
I understand that you are not trying to convince anybody but it is a good deed to spread the knowledge.
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Posted on:4th Jan 2008, 12:44am |
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To All the anxious people! Asalam wa Alikom wa Rehmatullah,
Saying “This is my own understanding after a lot study and much deliberation, and I don’t want to convince anybody in my favor. “I tried to close all the doors of argument, because I know the consequences of argument on this forum. I do not have enough time to write against the argument of those who can not read Quran, most of them never studied the translation of Quran even a single Aayat. People who do not know the meaning of HADIS, those who do not know the difference of SAHIH HADIS and ZAIF HADIS. Such people just ask me “ Meray bhai yay kahan likha hay zara bataingay!”. Did you see the post of “French Kiss”. Mr. Hangama wrot a Sahih Hadis with contents of “ French kiss “ but right after his post many people were asking “ Mnadeem aap ne kaisi itni barri baat keh di ke ye sunnat hae,”.
I am not so-called moderate follower of Islam, I am the most fundamental kind of Muslim. For enlightenment of my faith I would like to give you some references, for example, IKHWAN UL MUSLIMIN, a very strong group of Muslims in Egypt, Sudan and Yemen, TAKFEERI group in Saudi Arabia and All Hanbli and Shafai sects, Folowers of Mr. Abdul Wahab in Saudi Arabia and other Arab world know as Wahabi, Toheed wa Ashaat, Ehl-e-Hadis, Al dawa, and Jamat-ul-Muslimen and many more in Pakistan and India are know the most strict group of Muslims in the world. KSA and USA both countries are afraid of these groups, considering that extraction of these groups formed a cocktail party known as “ القائدہ ". These group of peoples are consider as the most fundamental Muslims of the world. Would you believe that these peoples also having the same faith what I said for mine.
Despite of such big school of thought I said “ This is my own understanding “ and this is 100% true because 12 years before when I was not aware about these groups, I personally studied the Islam and as I said “ after a lot study and much deliberation “ I reached on this point of my FAITH.
Pinky: I was in doubt that you do not read my posts, you just answer me after skimming the lines of my post. I may be wrong, but your query about my faith is compelling me to believe on. My first advice to you is go back to my all post in this regard, and read all as punishment. If this is difficult for you then an easy advice: Read All Quranic Aayats in this regard and find a clue against my faith and tell me. If you don’t find, then another more easy solution: go to all SAHIH HADIS in this regard and bring only one with the contents of saying: MUHAMMAD (pbuh) for the such thing as NAPAK. If you are in mood to have a spoon feeding then please wait, I have to-many things to do and especially a full assay against you as challenge (I mentioned in my previous post). Don’t worry that is not so hard, just to shake you up. That assay type answer is half ready, now I am thinking that, should I complete that or not, because I have fear that you will just skim the lines and may ask me again the same. (just kidding). Please wait a little I will elaborate full detail.
BeautyfullStar: May Allah Bless on You, what is this three question marks???, first you tell me what does it mean by “ PURE”? Ok, latter you may explain me with all that question I gathered to ask you, don’t worry that are not difficult question, just about the hierarchy of this forum, about ranks, about the so-called docs. Who they are? Do they belong to Noor Clinic or they are some individuals. But not now, I will write a separate post for these questions. So, for you the same advice, I made to your Phoophi Sahiba. Please consider my advice and answer me back. I remember I had already asked you bout my school of thought but your answer was not relevant to my question, ok no problem, for the time being I will say you the same what I said to Pinky, please wait, soon I will writ in detail.
Mr. Seriously: Demo is free, full contents required money! ( off-course not). As I said to Pinky and BeautyStar, two, the most faithful member of this forum and I learn a lot from both of them. I have some very important issues to write, that’s why I am not able to write on this topic in detail. But Inshallah I will try to write in as summarize and short as possible.
May Allah Bless on All of you,
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